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Re: Discount pricing? [drtravel] by steve_ HOST
Feb 09, 2009 (7:59 pm)
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Replying to: drtravel (Feb 09, 2009 4:41 pm)

15 Companies That Might Not Survive 2009. (Yahoo)
 
If this keeps up I won't be able to drive to Krispy Kreme in my Caliber while listening to Howard Stern.
 
Refinancing (or bankruptcy?) looms and Ergin/Echo Star is trying to buy them. MarketWatch
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Re: Discount pricing? [steve_] by gagrice
Feb 09, 2009 (8:05 pm)
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I thought Krispy Kreme already went bankrupt. None around here anymore. I only had one and thought it tasted like any other glazed donut. Not as good as mom made when I was a kid.
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Re: Discount pricing? [gagrice] by steve_ HOST
Feb 09, 2009 (8:14 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Feb 09, 2009 8:05 pm)

They were wonderful hot off the conveyor belt when I could only get them in Chattanooga when I'd go visit family. There's one here in Boise and I never go there.
 
Today's channel - Urban Soul - Classic (link)
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Re: Discount pricing? [nippononly] by qbrozen
Feb 10, 2009 (7:49 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Feb 09, 2009 6:56 pm)

Competition = iPods, HD radio, in-car streaming radio from the internet? Not to mention the old standards, talk radio AM and the CD changer pretty much every car comes with now.
 
Those are not competition, they are alternatives. That would be like saying an F-150 competes with a Taurus.
 
Internet radio I suppose comes the closest, although I'm not familiar with it. And what would I have to do to actually receive it? We're talking mobile internet connection, right? Not to mention an in-car PC. So how does that compete with $10/mo? We have ipod, cd changer, and sirius all in my wife's vehicle. When nobody else is with me, I turn on the satellite.
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Re: Discount pricing? [qbrozen] by drtravel
Feb 10, 2009 (5:24 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Feb 10, 2009 7:49 am)

Sirius XM is in the music delivery business to your car. Free radio is the main competition and it is much more affordable. I'm always switching channels when I listen to either. Throwing in an ipod lets me choose what I want to hear and I never have to change the station! Any method of putting music through my car's stereo system is indeed competition.
 
Back to another point I made: Sirius XM is preparing documents to file for Chapter 11 bankrupcy as I type this. So maybe Sirius XM = Taurus and all other music delivery systems = F-150. I know the F-150 and other music delivery sysyems will still be around for awhile. Not so sure about the Taurus and Sirius XM.
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Looks like Bankruptcy on its way by gagrice
Feb 10, 2009 (7:21 pm)
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NEW YORK (Reuters) - Sirius XM Radio Inc has been working with its advisers to prepare for a possible bankruptcy filing, the New York Times reported on its website on Tuesday, citing people close to the company.
 
The move could put pressure on satellite television company EchoStar Corp, which reportedly holds a substantial amount of Sirius XM debt. The Wall Street Journal reported Monday that EchoStar chief Charles Ergen made an offer to take control of the satellite radio company late last year, but he was rebuffed.
 
Sirius officials did not respond to several telephone and email messages, and EchoStar declined comment.

 
I guess I was lucky Toyota did not have a Sat option for my Sequoia. I would have been real ticked if I paid $500 and they went off the air. My take is they brought it on themselves paying jerks like Howard Stern $millions$. Too bad the CD player in the Sequoia is substandard.
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i like news by ral2167
Feb 10, 2009 (7:41 pm)
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i like the news...cnn, fox, cnbc... and sports...espn, nfl network, sporting news....
 
will miss all that if no more satellite,,,
 
for music i just do the cd changer mostly...hardly use satellite for music.
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Re: i like news [ral2167] by gagrice
Feb 10, 2009 (7:48 pm)
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Replying to: ral2167 (Feb 10, 2009 7:41 pm)

The 15 months we had XM I don't think we listened to anything but the Classical stations except at Christmas. It was nice out in the Desert and back country. We wanted it in our 07 Sequoia. Toyota dealer lied and said it was an option with the NAV. Turns out it would not work with the DVD player. So we have gotten used to not having it. Guess that is good if they go out of business. They need to dump all the expensive programing and just do news, talk and music. Does anyone listen to Sports. That is supposed to be for spectators.
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Re: Discount pricing? [qbrozen] by nippononly
Feb 10, 2009 (9:39 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Feb 10, 2009 7:49 am)

Internet radio I suppose comes the closest, although I'm not familiar with it. And what would I have to do to actually receive it? We're talking mobile internet connection, right? Not to mention an in-car PC. So how does that compete with $10/mo?
 
You don't need an in-car PC, they make receivers for this now, that cost the same as the one you have to buy to pick up sat radio. Service is a little more expensive, but the choices are far wider. I think it runs around $30/month.
 
It's too bad sat radio is going bankrupt, but really is it any sort of surprise? They have NEVER made money, they have always struggled.
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2nd unit by stickguy
Feb 11, 2009 (4:51 am)
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I recently got the same notice as qbrozen about increasing the monthly cost on the 2nd units. And I have 2 now, at $6.99/each (3 cars, so 1 primary + 2 secondary).
 
I haven't yet checked out the offers, but maybe paying for a year to lower the monthly cost isn't such a great idea!
 
Pretty sneaky though. Raise the price enough to up cash flow for people who don't change (that is, stay monthly), and generate a "windfall" from people who prepay now!
 
I would miss it. I have a long commute now (1+ hour each way) and love the baseball talk coverage on XM, and the games in season. PLus I enjoy the music, and there are still pelnty of stations I like. ALso nice for when we travel, often through areas with no real over the air.
 
Yeah, I could live without it, but I would miss it. And I am a bit fuzzy on what the internet option gives me. Isn't it just a clearer signal of regualr broadcast stations?

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