Last post on May 02, 2008 at 6:27 AM
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Mazda MAZDA6, Hatchback
#761 of 768 ageed on the audi A3
Apr 30, 2008 (7:38 pm)
In my own hunt I keep coming back to the A3 2.0T and honestly I can option it more toward what I want for less than the the grand touring. I only wish the 6 got better gas mileage and was a smidge bigger. I know the A3s is great from driving my friend's Jetta. I also realized that if I were patient I might get a crack at the Lancer hatchback which should have a ralliart edition. That car might be the car 6 hatchback fans out to be looking at down the road.
#762 of 768 Re: ageed on the audi A3 [milkman1]
May 01, 2008 (6:37 am)
Check the prices on the remaining Mazda6s on the lot. I got the V6 Grand Touring s for just slightly over $23,000. That is brand new! I love the A3, but an A3 with the same options as my Grand Touring would be north of $30,000! I also wish the Mazda6 had better gas mileage as well as more power. I would have thought the turbo-charged 4 cylinder engine in the CX-7 would have been a much better choice for the Mazda6 than the relatively anemic 6 cylinder that is presently in the car.
I agree with you on the Mitsu. The Lancer HB looks great from the pics I've seen and the Ralliart Edition could very well be the car HB lovers are looking for since the 2009 Mazda6 will only be a sedan.
#763 of 768 Re: ageed on the audi A3 [ccd1]
May 01, 2008 (7:06 am)
If they are looking at cars the size of the Lancer, I'd think the Mazda3 could also be the car for the HB lovers.
I am guessing that younger people are currently the main buyers of HBs, because it is only in the compact segment that they seem to be successful.
#764 of 768 Re: ageed on the audi A3 [jeffyscott]
May 01, 2008 (8:53 am)
#765 of 768 Re: ageed on the audi A3 [ccd1]
May 01, 2008 (12:36 pm)
Yes, but many "grown-ups" families already have a minivan, SUV, or cross-over in the fleet, so see no need for buying a HB over the sedan.
#766 of 768 Re: ageed on the audi A3 [jeffyscott]
May 01, 2008 (2:15 pm)
Point taken, and I have a SUV as a second car. I only have a couple of hundred miles on the Mazda6, but a few things are becoming pretty clear. The Mazda outperforms my SUV in terms of acceleration, handling and gas mileage. The truck is bigger, but the Mazda can handle most hauling duties if it had to. The truck does have 4WD, but I need that 1-2 days a year and didn't need it at all this Winter. IOW, with a mid-size hatch, I don't need a SUV or a crossover. In a couple of years, we will be getting rid of the SUV and it will not be replaced with another SUV. If you look at the evolution of the SUV in recent years, from truck based bodies to car based bodies (CUVs), what advantages do most CUVs have over a well executed mid-size HB??? The question should not be: "I have a truck/CUV/crossover, so why do I need a HB." Rather, it should be I have a HB, so why would I want a CUV/crossover/SUV. In the real world, the way most people actually use these cars, the CUV/crossover/SUV has no advantages over a HB. Name one SUV/crossover/CUV that is as much fun as the Mazda6 without spending truly stupid amounts of money (ie Cayenne, FX45, etc)
#767 of 768 Re: ageed on the audi A3 [ccd1]
May 02, 2008 (5:31 am)
Don't disagree with any of that.
With regard to: The question should not be: "I have a truck/CUV/crossover, so why do I need a HB." Rather, it should be I have a HB, so why would I want a CUV/crossover/SUV. I do not think most Americans are thinking that way (yet).
Also while that might work for us now because our 3 kids are grown, back when they were younger, we did want the minivan (at least we never got sucked into the over-priced SUV mania, though). We were fine with a hatch (Horizon) when there were only 2.
#768 of 768 Re: ageed on the audi A3 [jeffyscott]
May 02, 2008 (6:27 am)
Congrats on being realistic enough to realize that you (like most Americans) needed a minivan and got one instead of getting a SUV and using it like a minivan! I also agree that most of us are not at the point of preferring a HB to a CUV/SUV, but with gas rapidly approaching $4/gallon, I expect people to re-think this. SUV sales are already WAY down and I expect that trend to continue. The Mazda6 HB may end up being a case of a car that was just too far ahead of its time.
I'm still on the honeymoon period with the Mazda 6 HB, but I continue to be impressed with the car. I was going to replace my SUV with a sedan, but I'm beginning to think a sports car would be more like it. The Mazda6 seems fully capable of performing the necessary SUV and sedan duties. In fact, while I was at the dealership getting sat radio installed, I was looking at the RX-8!