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768 messages, Last post on May 02, 2008 at 5:27 AM
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Replying to: dateacha (Feb 23, 2008 1:45 pm)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Feb 24, 2008 4:37 am) At least I hope so. Their price on this hatch was over $700 below the local Mazda dealer's price on a wagon that was a year and 16k miles older. I'm pretty happy with the deal I got and right now, at least, am expecting they will treat me right on the lights. We'll see. |
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Hi All, I'm between a few cars right now and was hoping to get some feedback about how this car does in snow and if you use snow tires. Thank you
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Replying to: rebel71 (Feb 28, 2008 6:26 am)
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Replying to: m6user (Feb 28, 2008 11:43 am) Here is an excerpt from a review on TireRack for the Michelin Pilot's "however these Michelin's have got to be the absolute worse tire I have ever driven on in rain, icy or snow. In the rain the tire just spins starting from a stop light even when it is lightly excellerated. I recently had a one inch snow fall and stopped in my driveway which has a very slight incline. When I stated again all the tires would do is spin. I had to back out of my driveway and get a running start to get it in the garage. Overall these tires are decent for dry weather and have low noise. However, beware if you drive in the midwest where rain, Icy and snow are common all year round. These tires are horrible and Michelin should be ashamed they ask the price they do for these tires. I can't wait to get rid of them even though they only have 5000 miles on them.".
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Replying to: moparbad (Feb 28, 2008 12:09 pm)
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Replying to: m6user (Feb 28, 2008 1:08 pm) I've driven just about every type of vehicle through the worst of what central New York can throw at you (including lake-effect snow that dumps up to 6 inches PER HOUR). This ranges from a 4WD SUV with snow tires, to an empty full-size van with bald all-seasons. In fall of '04, I thought I'd be able to get away with the OEM 17" all-seasons for one year, then get a set of snow tires after that. The first major snowstorm changed all that. The Michelins are terrible in ANY snow, let alone 4-6 inches worth. Even light acceleration turned on the TCS light, and after a few close calls when braking, even on slush, I called Tirerack. I'm currently on my 4th winter with the 16" snow tires (Michelin Pilot Alpin PA2s) and steelies, and I've never regretted my decision. I've never gotten stuck in a parking lot, or drifted off into a ditch, even on snow-packed interstates. The PA2s are considered "performance winter" tires, which mean they give up a slight amount of extreme snow traction for better handling and control in dry traction (without feeling "squirmy" like other winter tires do in dry weather, especially above 40 degrees F). Despite that, snow traction has never been an issue. I can pass SUVs on snow-covered highways with confidence, with the advantages that FWD and a lower center of gravity that the 6 enjoys, and still have some fun carving corners when the weather is dry and the snow begins to melt. To answer your question: The OEM tires are not very good in snow compared to other all-seasons, but they'll manage if you live in areas that only see snow once in a while. If you live where you get more than 8 feet of snow per year (which is only 1/3 of what some areas AVERAGE here upstate), get the snow tires.
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Replying to: mz6greyghost (Feb 28, 2008 6:39 pm) If I lived in that type of country I would honestly be driving a Suburu. I agree with you though that snow tires would be better but for Chicagoland winters and driving conditions the OEMs do an adequate job.
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Replying to: m6user (Feb 29, 2008 8:26 am) Naahh, the supposed benefits of full-time AWD doesn't outweigh the 3-5 MPG penalty compared to FWD. That adds up quickly if you drive 25K+ miles per year. Snow tires and FWD works well for about 95% of winter driving. If it's REALLY bad, you probably shouldn't be out in it anyway.  I'll agree, if Chicago roads are kept in decent shape, all-seasons will work. |
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Replying to: m6user (Feb 29, 2008 8:26 am) I strongly disagree. The OEM's are not adequate for Chicago winters. Good all season tires would be adequate, the Michelin's are poor for traction.
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