Experience with e-mail only negotiations?

I doubt if anybody would have the patience to fill up such a questionaire. I know I sure wouldn't!

I would not have the patience to read such a long questionaire, let alone fill it up.

#215 of 232 Re: As the Internet Manager... [rayainsw] by benderofbows

Sep 13, 2006 (11:04 am)

Replying to: rayainsw (Sep 11, 2006 5:12 pm)

"I see what you want, it just isn't realistic. "

It must be the old "why would you want to use the internet when you can just trust the dealer?"

#216 of 232 Has nothing to do with "trust". by isellhondas

Sep 13, 2006 (12:16 pm)

Some people have their own ideas about how businesses should be run. Some of these ideas make sense and others do not. That's all.

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#217 of 232 Re: Has nothing to do with "trust". [isellhondas] by rayainsw

Sep 13, 2006 (1:07 pm)

Replying to: isellhondas (Sep 13, 2006 12:16 pm)

"Some people have their own ideas about how businesses should be run. Some of these ideas make sense and others do not. That's all. "

So - what DOES it have to do with?

Ideas?

So - the real world example from last year that I posted here is irrelevant?

I don't understand. I am willing to listen, if you'll post some reasons why you think that it would not work? At least for you & for your dealership.

Having seen it work first hand, I really don't understand your response....

Please?
- Ray
Confused................

#218 of 232 It seems to have worked for you... by isellhondas

Sep 13, 2006 (1:42 pm)

And that's what matters.

I have already posted the reasons but I will do so again.

Some (most)people overstate the condition of their trades.

And some dealers will tell the customer what they want to hear to get them in. Then the story will change.

" Oh, I didn't know your trade has a strong dog odor"

" Oh, I must have looked on the wrong line in the NADA book"

" I didn't realize your trade was a 5 speed...sorry, I must have missed that".

In a perfect world, your "remote control" method of buying a car would work and sometimes it very well could work but there are pitfalls.

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benderofbows (Sep 14, 2006 5:13 am)
- dad23 (Sep 14, 2006 7:48 am)

#219 of 232 Re: It seems to have worked for you... [isellhondas] by benderofbows

Sep 14, 2006 (5:13 am)

Replying to: isellhondas (Sep 13, 2006 1:42 pm)

Sure there are pitfalls, but that is true no matter how you buy a car!

Of course some dealers will give the customer the trade value they want to hear to get them in, then the story will change. But it should not happen any more than with new car quotes without a trade involved:

" Oh, I must have looked at the wrong invoice. "

" Oh, I thought you wanted a 5 speed in your new car, sorry. "

" We just sold the car I quoted, but over here we have one you'll really want. "

Just because some of that goes on, doesn't mean that the Internet doesn't work for most people. More and more people are proving that it does.

We just need more dealers and salespeople who are open to going all (or at least most) of the way, as I described in my first post.

Or else, as I asked before, what are the people with trade-ins supposed to do, if they either don't know how to use the information available to them, or the books are wrong? It is impractical to try and get 3 or 4 dealers to appraise their car in person so that they will know they aren't getting fleeced.

Internet quotes just seems like a good solution.

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dad23 (Sep 14, 2006 7:48 am)

#220 of 232 Re: It seems to have worked for you... [benderofbows] by dad23

Sep 14, 2006 (7:48 am)

Replying to: benderofbows (Sep 14, 2006 5:13 am)

We have an outfit here in town called Auto MDs They don't do any repairs but offer independent evaluations on vehicles people might be looking to purchase.

I don't know if it would ever fly, but what if someone came up with a similar company that could go around offering independent appraisals on used vehicles, at least to get an idea of what to expect at the dealership? I guess the dealerships would have to decide whether to recognize these values, but could always negotiate them one way or another, depending on their current inventory needs, etc. Just a thought, feel free to rip it to shreds, it's early here, haven't had my caffeine yet

#221 of 232 How do I get internet sales men to email me back?! by heidigreenlaw

Sep 21, 2006 (5:57 pm)

Hopefully someone can help me. I am going to buy a car by the end of this month & I know what I want. I've emailed dealers in the area telling them what I want, when I want to buy, when I can give them a deposit, etc. One guy said "I don't have what you want but I'll try & find it & get back to you" - he never did. I've emailed him twice since - no response from him. Should I keep hounding the guy? Other dealerships also don't respond back at all. How do I handle this? I don't have the time to drive from dealer to dealer with 2 small children in tow & deal with it that way. Suggestions?

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#222 of 232 Re: How do I get internet sales men to email me back?! [heidigreenlaw] by bobst

Sep 21, 2006 (7:25 pm)

Replying to: heidigreenlaw (Sep 21, 2006 5:57 pm)

No, you should not keep hounding the guy. If he wanted to respond, he would have. What is the sound of one hand clapping?

A lot of dealers have websites that give their inventories. You could try checking them.

Going to a dealer in person is very painless if you first determine the exact out-the-door price you are willing to pay. Then go to the dealer and make that offer contingent on you liking the car after a test drive.

If they don't accept your offer within 5-10 minutes, then leave. If they accept, then take the car for a test drive. If you like it, then pay for it and drive it home.

Sure, you might get a better deal if you or your kids are skilled at negotiation, but my way is simple and easy for those of us who don't know how to negotiate.

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jipster (Sep 22, 2006 7:20 am)

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