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Volkswagen New Beetle, Volkswagen Golf, Volkswagen Jetta, Volkswagen Passat, Diesel, Hatchback, Sedan, Wagon
#2062 of 2551 Re: TDI expected longivity [safety51]
Feb 14, 2006 (9:47 am)
Let's see, that micros out to 52,800 miles per year. Divided by 37/50 mpg= 1,427/1,056 gals. Savings of 371 gal per year or x50 mpg =18,550 miles/1546 miles per mo, or x 2.77 gal =$1,028. per year/$86 per mo.
(Correct me if I am wrong. If I am incorrect, then rerun the correct figures)
I do not really know what a Toyota Corolla gets in reality, but here is what I have side by side.
(80/20 freeway/city: 35-1.5 hr, 25 mile x2=50 mile R/T daily commute)
EPA 29/38, 2004 Honda Civic, range 37-41 commute 37.
EPA 42/49, 2003 VW Jetta TDI, range 44-62 commute 50
While I indeed like the Honda Civic, for the commute you mention my OVERWHELMING preference would be for the TDI. You can of course get more like 62 mpg in your commute. Watching paint dry is adrenaline pumping activity compared to trying to get 60-65 mpg and up. BUT that is purely knowing ME. The fact is you can not GET 60-65 in the Honda Civic, where you CAN get it in the TDI.
#2063 of 2551 Re: TDI expected longivity [ruking1]
Feb 14, 2006 (1:06 pm)
So to conclude.
1. you BE against a 1.8T almost immediately
2. You BE against a 2.0 in app 1 year
3. You BE against a Honda Civic (12600 vs TDI 18,000)
in 5.3 years.
#2064 of 2551 Re: Buying diesel TDI? [elias]
Feb 14, 2006 (10:22 pm)
Thanks for your reply.
I think I will be getting FSI 2.0T 143kw engine instead of diesel because the TDI only comes with 103kw and I feel it is not enough power to get it going especially if I am buying the estate wagon.
But TDI still in my mind because of longer km to travel per tank and since it is less power it is cheaper too compare to 2.0T FSI.
I am disappointed with VW Australia they are not bringing 125kw TDI and some of the features not as much as I expected.
Maybe getting Accord Euro (Accura TSX) instead, because leather, power front seats, sunroof, xenon and fog light already standard and cheaper AUS$4000 compare to 2.0T.
What do you think?
#2065 of 2551 Re: TDI expected longivity [ruking1]
Feb 15, 2006 (8:17 am)
I agree with your #'s but, TDI msrp = $24,000 Corolla msrp = $16,000. In order to make up the difference in costs, I would have to drive the TDI for 7 years 50,000 mi/yr or 350,000. I don't think that is practical. The other consideration I have to take into account is, will the tdi last at least a year (50,000) longer? If so, forget the msrp difference because I just drove an extra year before a new purchase. Thanks for the feedback
#2066 of 2551 Re: TDI expected longivity [safety51]
Feb 15, 2006 (8:39 am)
Are you comparing apples to apples on those prices? A fairly well equipped TDI looks closer to $21,000. Either way, the TDI will always be worth significantly more than a Corolla so you can't write-off the entire difference up-front.
My '00 TDI with 130k miles currently books for about $4,000 more than a somewhat similar Corolla.
#2067 of 2551 Re: TDI expected longivity [safety51]
Feb 15, 2006 (8:55 am)
"TDI msrp = $24,000 Corolla msrp = $16,000"
The essential issue seems to be buy two 16,000 per or 32,000 vs one at 24,000. And is it reasonable to project one will go in effect a min of twice as long.
Let's see, if I might say, your mileage can be considered EXTREME. Another way to look at it is at the 7 year mark do you anticipate still having the requirement for the 50k plus per year? Again if so and having one car to do it, I would still chose the TDI.
So for example, we have a requirement for a 18k commute plus 28k for a 46k per year. The only reason we got the Civic was the wife was tired of (wanted auto) shifting, but still wanted good mpg, or as best as possible. My goal and time horizon was and still is 500k -1M for the TDI. So I guess the real question is what is the time/mileage horizon for the Toyota Corolla for you? (for the Civic it is 250,000 plus)
#2068 of 2551 Re: TDI expected longivity [ruking1]
Feb 15, 2006 (9:46 am)
Good arguments that are swaying me in a direction that I was already leaning. I had a typo on the msrp of the Toyota. Similar equipment, Jetta msrp = $24,200 Toyota msrp = $17,199. I plan to discontinue this commute within 5 years.
#2069 of 2551 Re: TDI expected longivity [safety51]
Feb 15, 2006 (10:03 am)
Also if this is a bit too deep, let me know and I will cut it off. However since you anticipate doing 250,000 miles in 5 years, it would help you further decide based on the logistics. I mean stuff like oil and filter changes, fuel filters, cabin filters, brake pads, rotors, tires, balancing, alignments, timing belt, water pump, changes, bearings, strut/shocks, /strut/shock hardware.
#2070 of 2551 Re: TDI expected longivity [safety51]
Feb 15, 2006 (3:43 pm)
Safety51 My hat goes off to you. A 200 mile a day commute? I hope that is round trip. I commute to work once a month, stay 15 days and return. My commute time each way is 35 minutes so it is not much of a problem. Tomorrow I have to drive to Seattle and that will be about 90 minutes one way IF the traffic is normal, what ever that is. I’d almost rather put a bullet in my foot than drive to Seattle on I-5. OK, Im spoiled Coming home should be good for two hours. If it snows as predicted, I may never get home, well maybe Friday morning early.
#2071 of 2551 Re: TDI expected longivity [jkinzel]
Feb 16, 2006 (12:03 pm)
I actually made this commute for 8 years. For the past 4 years, I have gone back and forth only on weekends. Since the daughter was married, wife has decided it is too lonely during the week so guess what? If there is anything good about my commute it is lack of traffic, can make the trip in an hour and 40 minutes. Have to be on the lookout for deer though.