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#1972 of 2551 Starting Problems for 2004 Jetta TDI in Hawaii
Dec 12, 2005 (9:24 am)
We just received a 2004 Jetta TDI from a VW dealership in Chicago, and the wagen has a little over 5000 miles. The car is in Hawaii at about 4,000 feet elevation. It is hard to start when cold, but cold here means 50 to 70 degrees! The engine tries to start on the first attempt with a sputter, but after that it takes about 10 separate attempts at cranking before the engine starts. It seems to start fine once the engine is warm. It also sometimes has an abrupt power loss (for a few seconds, not electrical) while underway when it is newly started, but this seems to diminish in occurance once the car is warm. I suspect a fuel system problem, but would appreciate your input. Thanks!
#1973 of 2551 Re: Maintenance [vzh9p7]
Dec 12, 2005 (12:36 pm)
I would recommend the amsoil 5w-40 100% synthetic european car formula. it meets all vw specs.
amsoil has diesel fuel modifer additive
go to www.amsoil.com,see what you think.
#1974 of 2551 Re: Timing Belt and Oil [moparbad]
Dec 12, 2005 (12:42 pm)
Amsoil now has 5w-40 european car formula 100% synthetic oil. It meets all vw specs.
#1975 of 2551 Re: TDI glow plug problem [chris8fish]
Dec 12, 2005 (5:33 pm)
hello i have the exact same problem i have changed GP relay 180 and power relay 109 and the temp sensor and no results. when the key is turned to ignition the glow plug light comes on very quickly (for about 1-2 seconds) then goes off- no matter how cold or hot it is. and there is no power to the GP . When the temperature sensor is unplugged, the glow plugs come on for about 15 seconds i also noticed that when the engine is started with temp sensor plugged in i get no power before its started but once its started when i get it to start i get power to GP for approx 60 seconds
if you have anything new to share i would very much apreciat it thanks
#1976 of 2551 Re: TDI glow plug problem [gent]
Dec 12, 2005 (9:27 pm)
Regarding the hard starting on the TDI Jetta in Hawaii, thanks so much for your answer. I also got a similar answer from an on line technician, who responded to the problem as follows:
"Have the glow plugs all checked. Classic symptoms of one
or more burnt out.
Have your shop pull out the main Relay in the fuse box
(109) and re install it. Some of them have corrosion on
them from sitting before installation. Removing cleaning
the contacts will, many times, cure the "sudden loss in
power while underway.", syndrome .
I am going to the VW place on Thursday since the car is in warranty, and I will write back with the verdict. Thanks again for your insightful response. Aloha!
#1977 of 2551 Timing Belt
Dec 15, 2005 (5:43 am)
Okay, the ol' TDI is at 96K, getting ready for timing belt change. Because I'm a mechanical neandrathal, I am having this work done probably by my local foreign mechanic, who's done work for us for years. Very trustworthy in my mind. Initial estimate is for about $900, but the question is; they say that they need to replace the water pump. That just seems odd to me, but then again, I'm not an expert. Thoughts?
#1978 of 2551 Re: Timing Belt [vzh9p7]
Dec 15, 2005 (6:30 am)
A water pump wouldn't hurt. It's a preventative maintenance thing because if the pump were to go bad you'd have to do all the same labor again. The pump isn't all that expensive and takes nearly zero extra time while they're changing the belt. Since you won't need another belt until 200k miles....you never know if the current pump will last that long. It's fairly common on most vehicles to consider trading the water pump when doing the timing belt. Particularly now that many vehicles have 100k or more miles between timing belts.
The problem I see here is with the price. Are they saying $900 including the water pump? A OEM water pump and a timing belt kit is about $300, say $400 max. They're charging you $500 for labor?? That's steep. A good mechanic should be able to do it in 2-3 hours. A bad one in 5 hours. That's still $100/hour for a bad mechanic.
I'd get a break-down of what they're charging for what. www.worldimpex.com has the OEM parts for around $300 plus shipping. If they're buying from a dealer, they might be paying way too much for the parts. If they're not using OEM parts the price should be significatly less. I don't see how a timing belt/water pump should exceed $700, and that's likely at a dealer.
#1979 of 2551 driving in snow
Dec 15, 2005 (7:37 am)
Can anyone tell me how their 06 TDI runs in the snow. My husband has a 04 TDI and it is not good, he said he needs to get better tires. I have put a deposit on the 06 TDI but want to make sure about driving in snow - I live in New England and drive back roads to work and have a steep hill for a driveway.
#1980 of 2551 Re: driving in snow [mof1]
Dec 15, 2005 (7:39 am)
IF you get the ESP, NO absolutely NO problems!
#1981 of 2551 Re: driving in snow [mof1]
Dec 15, 2005 (7:56 am)
Hmmm, let's see, where did I put that soapbox? Ahhh, here it is.
If you live in New England (as I do), and you are faced with challenging terrain, even if said challenge is infrequent, the $300 - $1,200 investment in a set of winter tires (depends upon size, type, capability and whether a second set of wheels is purchased as well) is money well spent. Tires are the single most important component for your car (or any car for that matter) when it comes to how well that car can deal with snow, slush, ice and even cold dry roads), including the option that many folks believe to be the winter driving panacea, namely AWD.
Said another way, if you want a TDI, buy a TDI. If you don't like the tires due their poor winter capabilities, spend another $500 or so and buy a set that perform better.