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Toyota Tacoma, Ford Ranger
Apr 01, 2002 (6:47 pm)
You are looking in the wrong place for reliability data for Toyota trucks/Tacoma's. I don't know where you got this quote from?? There are clear charts and comments showing the reliability and problems with Toyota trucks/Tacoma trucks.
As far as the Mazda not being number 2 in sales?? I would have to say its because there 10 Ford dealerships for every Mazda dealership, and Mazda doesn't offer the B series in as many configurations as Ford does the RAnger. I would also say there are at least 5 Toyota dealerships for every Mazda dealership also.
If you read back, way way back you will find a name "Vince8". I pulled a few Toyotas out of tough spots, even helped a guy whose Tacoma left him stranded up in the middle of nowhere, about 15 miles to the nearest halfway traveled road. Also have a friend with a TRD. He has had his problems, even tried to hide them from me. He wanted so bad to "bury" my Ranger and "leave me in the dust" He couldn't.
Tacomas aren't perfect, there are plenty of other chat rooms around the net with some ticked off owners that have learned this also. I left this room because I was tired of the same old stuff. I have a Ranger that has proven to be every bit as reliable and offroad capable as any Tacoma, TRD or non TRD. Maybe its my experience with offroading that makes the Ranger perform? I don't know, all I know it get me where I want to go and has never let me down. I know I paid at least 2-3K less for a like optioned Tacoma in 1998.
See you in the Cascades.... Drive smart.
#804 of 1840 I finally agree with you tbunder
Apr 01, 2002 (10:10 pm)
I have to agree with your statement ""im the biggest retard on edmunds". Although unintended, you couldn't describe yourself any better. I also enjoyed your "back in my racing days" comment....HA HA!!! I find it interesting that guys like you feel the need to make things up and put down other people in an attempt to cover up your lack of knowledge.
#805 of 1840 sad.........
Apr 01, 2002 (10:12 pm)
until i see toyota's out in the timber pulling stuck trees down after being cut down and falling on another and part of the tree landing on the truck and not even damaging it, i won't give toyota any respect. people don't buy toyota's to work them, they buy them cuz they are cheap (non SR5 trucks) and get good mileage, and are supposed to have a good warranty. we all know how good that powertrain warranty is now- if something goes wrong, its YOUR fault. i know of a couple old toyotas around my hometown community. neither one of those could go haul a load of wood out of the timber- cuz they now have flatbeds on them cuz the original bed has rusted off. it sounds like you need the experience. us ford owners HAVE worked our trucks, you guys just use yours as transportation. even scorp won't go cruise the ditches, calling even that abuse. whatever. im sorry, but toyota builds their trucks for looks, and that's it. why do you think they build pre-runners? so people can have the "look" of a 4x4. not knocking your truck, but it really is just a camry with a bed and raised suspension isn't it? ford trucks walk the walk, and toyotas just talk. that's the whole difference.
#806 of 1840 notknowing......
Apr 01, 2002 (10:22 pm)
just cuz you have no natural talent for anything other than coming on edmunds and sounding like a moron, doesn't mean others haven't had success in extra-curricular activities or other hobbies. i don't "make stuff up" like yourself obviously. i raced for eight years and would love to pound some bars with you. unfortunately, guys like you wouldn't have the guts to keep the throttle on all the way into the first turn. you make me laugh at how wimpy you probably are. and your truck choice totally backs your persona up. the toyota truck is a "poser", and so are you. you also need to practice up on your reading comprehension abilities.
#807 of 1840 tbunder: As a Ranger owner, I hate to say this, BUT....
Apr 02, 2002 (5:49 am)
you have been bordering on obnoxious lately. This forum is NOT about demeaning others. It is intended to be a level playing ground where adults can debate the plusses and minuses of Tacomas and Rangers WITHOUT getting personal.
After owning six Toyota pickups, including two Tacomas, I will likely never buy another. There are MANY things I don't like about the Tacoma, most of them very subjective. My intense dislike of the Tacoma (and most things Toyota) does not give me the right to make personal attacks on others, such as calling them morons. That's just acting badly, IMHO.
Please back off a bit, and stick to facts, or your own personal opinions.
Apr 02, 2002 (5:57 am)
are you like this in real life, or just online?
#809 of 1840 My Tacoma and some people's comments......
Apr 02, 2002 (7:11 am)
Hey, I knew my comment about the bed of my Tacoma would get some people going regarding Tacoma quality. Listen, my only point was that Tacoma's aren't perfect. If you work a truck like a truck should be worked, they will all experience problems (some minor, some major) at some point. They are machines, and no machine is perfect (not even Tbunder's Ranger, no matter what BS he posts on this web site).
The fact that my bed bent back into my cab as I slammed into it with an 800 lb. snow machine (at about 10 mph) doesn't mean that I now believe my Tacoma is junk. The bed strength is a flaw that (in my opinion) should probably be corrected by the Toyota engineers. However, I still love the truck and I still believe that a Toyota engine is one of the most reliable in the industry. And, I still think that Rangers are kind of crappy and wouldn't buy one if it was the last compact on the face of the planet. And, no compact is as strong as a full sized pick up. So for TBunder to compare an 80's full sized Ford to a Tacoma is kind of a compliment.
Furthermore, I was simply trying to prove to the pro-Ranger fans (Tbunder in particular) that a subjective owner of any vehicle is not afraid to point out the flaws of that vehicle. I mean, come on Tbunder, how can any of us really read your posts without laughing out loud when you tell us repeatedly that your Ranger is so perfect and has never given you even the slightest problem. Either you are the luckiest vehicle owner on the face of this planet or your Ford Ranger has never left your garage.
Take care and I'll see you in the woods doing some fishing..............Steelman.
Apr 02, 2002 (8:52 am)
"The fact that my bed bent back into my cab as I slammed into it with an 800 lb. snow machine (at about 10 mph) doesn't mean that I now believe my Tacoma is junk"
-I guess I can't imagine any truck not getting a good dent from having this happen.
#811 of 1840 I wish we could do an experiment like that on tbunders Ranger,
Apr 02, 2002 (8:58 am)
but he doesn't have one anymore.
#812 of 1840 It works both ways
Apr 02, 2002 (10:56 am)
until i see Ford's out in the timber pulling stuck trees down after being cut down and falling on another and part of the tree landing on the truck and not even damaging it, i won't give Ford any respect. people don't buy Ford's to work them, they buy them cuz they are cheap (all of em) and get good mileage, and are supposed to have a good warranty because they need it. we all know how good that powertrain warranty is now- if something goes wrong, which it will, its YOUR fault. i know of a couple old Fords around my hometown community. neither one of those could go haul a load of wood out of the timber- cuz they now have flatbeds on them cuz the original bed has rusted off. it sounds like you need the experience. us Toyota owners HAVE worked our trucks, you guys just use yours as transportation. even scorp won't go cruise the ditches, calling even that abuse. whatever. im sorry, but Ford builds their trucks for cheapness, and that's it. why do you think they are so inexpensive? Toyota trucks walk the walk, and Fords just talk. that's the whole difference
As for my truck, you have gone and done it. How stupid are you? I outdo 4x4 nissans all the time with my locker, wherever he wants to go. Ive got more ground clearance than Rangers, now. How is that like a camry. They build prerunners for people who cant afford and don't use 4x4 that much. Any other reason is just bogus (ie. your reason). I will take my truck just about anywhere around here that 4x4s can go. You won't believe that til you ride with me, but its true.
I don't know what the hell has gotten into you but this is not like you at all. What happened to respecting each other? I understand your extreme hatred for these trucks but fail to see any backing. Oh by the way, the first paragraph is not necessarily my thoughts, just an example of how things can go either way, neither way being any more true or false than the other. I don't know what Yotas you see, and you don't know what Fords I see.