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Toyota Tacoma vs. Ford Ranger, Part XII - READ ONLY
1840 messages, Last post on Oct 02, 2002 at 4:10 PM
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What is this discussion about? Toyota Tacoma, Ford Ranger
#744 of 1840 Ok you are somewhat right by kbtoys
Mar 26, 2002 (2:48 pm)
Yea the rangers that I had listed where old I should of say that, but the point is they are still rangers. The rangers where built by the same company that built the ranger you had. Also how about the 99 Ranger on their that Rebecca had? Here is what she had to say. "Rebecca of Bessemer, AL, writes:My 1999 Ford Ranger's windows fog up and it is hard to see. The steering is not right, it wanders. The brakes don't work righe, it has a vibration, it accelerates at stops and I am afraid I or someone else will be injured if it isn't fixed, but the dealership says it can't find any of the problems. I just think they dont want the lemon back. I am a nervous wreck cause I have a vehicle that I have to pay for and I believe it is a hazard to be on the road. I almost had a wreck cause it accelerated at a stop light and I'm just terrified to drive it"
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/ford_ranger_misc.html
To that seems like a huge problem.
As for the huge problem you posted I assume you where referring to the sunroof incident. Here is my thoughts about it. I have never heard of this before but I don't deny it did not happen. I myself have a manual sunroof in my tacoma and there are three hinges that hold the glass in. You can unhook all three and take out the glass. It's nice in the summer but can be a pain to take out. Anyway back to the point if he did not hook the hinges in correctly I could see that happening, But for the sake of argument lets say they where hooked correctly. Sunroofs on a tacoma is not a factory option but a dealer option. Who ever installed the sun roof dealer or sunroof shop did not do it right. I can believe the dealer might not have done it right. I don't trust some of the toyota dealers I live by, but the tacoma did not come from the factory with that problem.
#745 of 1840 Smells funny to me by midnight_stang
Mar 26, 2002 (9:01 pm)
The Ford Ranger Safety Link:Ok, this guy rear ends three different people within 14 months, and he's complaining about brakes? Brakes cannot stop you on a dime if you are tailgating. ABS does not allow you to lock up your brakes. If you take two similair vehicles, one with ABS and one without ABS, the vehicle without can lockup the wheels, and that will result in a longer stopping distance. Try going 45 MPH and locking up your brakes. Try it again, but brake just enough so the wheels are on the verge of locking up. You will stop much quicker with ABS, and you can steer the whole time instead of skidding wherever momentum takes you.
Second, Air bags do not deploy unless during very specific conditions, I.E. Head on crash. The second incident states they hit a tree on the passenger side, then hit another tree head on going 20-30 MPH. Unless you believe in JFK's magic bullet theory, this isn't possible unless they were spinning or some other wierd movement. Think about it. Airbags only deploy during head on crashes, otherwise they could cause more harm than help. The light indicates the passenger airbag is locked in the off position, hmm I wonder why.
Third, I'm feel for the passing of the lady's husband, but why are you driving vehicles prone to stalling? Get a mechanic, or someone mechanically inclined and fix it. You typically get ejected from a car crash if your seat belt is not fastened.
Rangers Misc:
Someone had a fuel tank that leaked. It's 13 years old and they have to pay 1050 for a conversion to a new type of fuel cell. Even though some super glue or other adhesive would have fixed the leak, he can also go to summitracing.com and get a fuel cell, mounting kit and pump for under 300 bucks. Or go to a junkyard and spend maybe 40 bucks.
Next person has a coolant bottle that looks to be empty every oil change. This could occur for many reasons, but is definitely not gonna hurt the car. OK, without any mention of actual coolant level, that must be assumed good. Maybe he should pop his own hood, and watch the fluids himself? Nah, that might require getting his hands dirty, and maybe a 50 cent hose clamp to fix a loose hose.
The last girl's windows fog up (use Rain-X anti fog, or air conditioning defrost), an alignment will show if the steering is off, and my favorite "I almost had a wreck cause it accelerated at a stop light and I'm just terrified to drive it." Make sure you don't confuse the left pedal with the right one.
Is this crybabyaffairs.com? Some of these people sound like they don't need to be behind the wheel.
Ranger Fires:
I'm confused, there's is a fire under the hood and the canopy light is to blame. So his aftermarket light inside his cap caused a short, and this is Ford's fault how? It must not of been a bad short/fire if he was able to open the hood and disconnect the wires. Either way whoever installed the canopy wiring is to blame, obviously not Ford.
I may be skeptical, but if you want to evaulate things skeptically and scientifically, you need to test every theory (or testimony) for it's faults. These Ranger posts reek of emotional outpouring, and offer little to zero factual evidence (even presented in 3rd person) to point the fault at Ford.
Either way, 9 trucks are a drop in the bucket compared to all the ones that don't seem to have a problem at all. What is more likely to be the contributing factor? The possibility of personal error would be much more likely the cause, than a manufacturing one.
#746 of 1840 dang stang...... by tbunder
Mar 26, 2002 (10:49 pm)
you pretty much covered it. and thx for backing up what i said about the abs.#747 of 1840 well by midnight_stang
Mar 27, 2002 (6:38 am)
That was after quite a few glasses of wine, but those stories just didn't seem very credible. I would bet only 1 or 2 are legitimate complaints.#748 of 1840 How about this by eagle63
Mar 27, 2002 (6:56 am)
I would like to call a moratorium on posting these anecdotal stories found on the web about vehicle problems. -whether they support either the Ranger or the Tacoma. I think there's little credibility, and even if the stories are true it doesn't really mean anything. No brand is without its complainers. anybody want to second my motion?
#749 of 1840 I second the motion............ by issisteelman
Mar 27, 2002 (8:24 am)
However, it is fun to watch Tbunder and Stang defend their beloved Ranger to the end. By the way, my Tacoma is not perfect (broken cup holder and a dashboard that rattles on cold mornings until it warms up) but the few problems don't seem that bad when you consider that I've put thousands of off road (woods) miles on her thus far. Hey Ranger fans, you guys have any problems or are your trucks really perfect like you claim? I have trouble believing that Tbunder's and Stang's Rangers have never had even one minor problem. If so, I'm really impressed. Maybe a Ranger isn't as junky as I originally thought. Take care.......Steelman.#750 of 1840 steeldude by midnight_stang
Mar 27, 2002 (9:47 am)
I'm not sure the full intent of your comments, as most of the time you are trying to be humorous or provoking.You are wrong in that I claim my truck to be perfect. Tbunder's was brand new, so I can believe he had little to no problems, but my truck is just under 10 years old and with just under 140 thousand miles.
My transmission went out at 120k. (However I never did any maintenance to my automatic transmission, and gave it a lot of abuse in my high school years. This includes dropping into drive at around 5000 RPM.) My Radiator was replaced about 125k. Water pump replaced just before that. I am also on my third thermostat. I live just north of Dallas TX, and my truck has been out backpacking with me through the Ozark and Ouachita Mountains, and Buffalo River area in Arkansas. I have also spent a couple weeks down at South Padre Island, where I camped on the beach and would race a Jeep Wrangler across the sand.(and beat him usually). Oh yeah, my power steering is a bit noisy if I turn it in the parking lot, but it is still tight and works great. Never needed an alignment. I have gone through 1 set of front rotors(somewhere over 100k). My inside door handle got stuck in the open position once, but some WD40 fixed that up.
I may be a city slicker to you, but my truck has spent a good bit of time playing in the outdoors. Maybe 6 months (combined) of it's life was spent in non optimal condistions which could be classified as very stressful. The rest of the time it's stop and go traffic in a major metropolitan area. Parking 5 feet from the ocean by night and wheeling around the beach all day, or up and down some ridiculous grades of what they call dirt roads in Arkansas, to the general attempts at street racing and trying to look cool of my youth. This truck has been abused, but it is still ready and capable for more action.
So you may think I never had one minor problem, but that isn't quite true. I've had a few, but never did it leave me stranded, or could not be attributed to lack of maintenance, abuse, or just basic wear and tear. I'm still rust free, get over 20 MPG in the city, all my accesories are from the factory (and work), and my valve cover gasket is factory sealed.
No truck goes without any problems, somewhere, sometime, but I have a problem with you characterizing the Ranger as "junky".
#751 of 1840 stang by sc0rpi0
Mar 27, 2002 (10:09 am)
Hmm...maybe we can go out wheeling sometime, I live in Austin.#752 of 1840 Ok by midnight_stang
Mar 27, 2002 (1:08 pm)
I might be going to San Marcos this summer to visit some friends. Will let you know...#753 of 1840 Stang........... by issisteelman
Mar 27, 2002 (2:35 pm)
Okay, so maybe I shouldn't characterize the Ford Ranger as Junky. However, I really kind of feel that way. This feeling is based upon my own personal experiences. I had a friend who bought one once and basically traded it in two years later and told me that Ranger's were junk. He was a big Ford fan but he felt that the Ranger was not in the same "quality" league as Ford's full size trucks. My girlfriend's mom has a Ranger and is very unhappy with the performance. For that matter, I've tried it and for a V6 it is extremely sluggish. I've seen many a Ranger around town that looks like it is ready to disintegrate at any moment. I guess everyone's perception is influenced by their own personal experience, and I have to tell you, my experience tells me that one should stay away from a Ford Ranger if you are considering purchasing a compact pick up.By the way, if the tranny on my Tacoma blows at 120k, even if I abused it (which I do at times), I will consider it to be a piece of junk. I honestly believe (again, based on personal experience) that I can easily get 200k of trouble free miles from a Toyota. We'll see. Take care.......Steelman.
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