Toyota Tacoma vs. Ford Ranger, Part XII - READ ONLY

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#1831 of 1840 midnight_stang by h0udini

Oct 02, 2002 (3:05 pm)

Please explain the picture from your post #1636 from http://jefftaipale.crosswinds.net/tandemtruck.jpg
HAVE THE LAWFUL OWNERS OF THESE IMAGES GIVEN YOU PERMISSION TO POST THEM HERE IN EDMUNDS? IF NOT YOU ARE VIOLATING COPYRIGHT LAWS. We can do this all night long. I assure you, I will find more copyright violations in your posts. I will be as persistent with you as you have been with plutonious.
 
If abiding by copyright laws is as important to you as you have recently demonstrated, why did you not cite the sources of these pictures simply to avoid even the perception of any wrongdoing?
 

#1832 of 1840 Give it a rest by midnight_stang

Oct 02, 2002 (3:13 pm)

http://jefftaipale.crosswinds.net/ranger.html

In my best Cuba Gooding Jr voice..."Show me the copyright!"
 
"If abiding by copyright laws is as important to you as you have recently demonstrated, why did you not cite the sources of these pictures simply to avoid even the perception of any wrongdoing?"
 
Because any novice can right click on the image to find the source. In no way did I represent myself as having created these items. In no way are these items marked as intellectual property of the site I found them on. On none of these sites are there any legal memorandums stating "Do not link to our pictures".
 
If you re-read my first post on the subject, I merely said to pluto that he should post links to the copyrighted material uses. I was trying to be more helpful than anything, but oh how you guys love to escalate!
 
We can do this all night, I just ask that you show me proof of copyright infringement before you open your mouth again.

#1833 of 1840 For Houdini, Re: Pluto by midnight_stang

Oct 02, 2002 (3:23 pm)

I love the third paragraph, it basically covers it all!
 
http://autozine.kyul.net/Comment.htm

#1835 of 1840 Pluto by lariat1

Oct 02, 2002 (3:43 pm)

When you were a kid did you eat ice cream dipped in paint chips?! I know this sounds difficult but in order to comprehend the meaning of a conversation you must listen (or read in this case) more than just one sentence. Let me help you out. What tbundy is saying is why would someone want a big V-8 that has 200 hp and 300lb-ft of torque ( those are estimates most older V-8's have been modified) when a V-6 is available that is is 1/2 the mass and has comparable power figures, gets better gas mileage and will run with very little vibration due to the engine being properly balanced by engineering the proper size balance shaft.
 
In post #1756 you state that a V-8 "suffers a small degree of end-to-end vibration" and "simply uses counter-balances to eliminate the vibration."So you know that a V-8 is not perfectly balanced and someone must engineer counter weights to balance the engine, hmmmmm dont they have to do the same to a V-6? The only difference is on a V-6 the counter weights must be bigger. As a result of the processes involved in the manufacture of engines and engine parts it is logical to come to the conclusion that through the use of counter weights that a V-6 engine can be balanced to achieve vibration levels so close to those of a properly balanced V-8 that the difference cannot be felt only measured.

#1836 of 1840 well I think by eagle63

Oct 02, 2002 (3:55 pm)

that all v6's and v8's suck. Inline 4 cyclinders are the best there is and are the way of the future....

#1837 of 1840 lariat1, Was your baby bottle filled with lead paint? by plutonious

Oct 02, 2002 (3:58 pm)

I didn't know **TBUNDY's** Liberty had 300 lb/ft of torque!
 
I can't make it any simpler:
 
ALL V6s have end to end vibration. Some vibrate so badly they need a balance shaft.
 
Many V8s are perfectly balanced. Those that aren't only need counterweights to eliminate end to end vibration.
 
Overall, V8s are regarded as being naturally balanced, while V6s are not. Many people do not like V6s for this reason.
 
I think any engineering student would see the folly in making a balance comparison between a 90 degree V6 and a V8 the way **TBUNDY** did.
 

#1838 of 1840 You see lariat by midnight_stang

Oct 02, 2002 (4:00 pm)

The problem with arguing with Idiots, is that they first bring you down to their level, and then beat you with experience.
 
Pluto, for the sake of your own public image, please explain how Tbunder said his V6 is better balanced than any V8.

#1839 of 1840 midnight_caballo by plutonious

Oct 02, 2002 (4:09 pm)

Pretty amusing what happened between you and h0udini, but I bet you won't be violating anymore copyright laws, huh?
 
That must be embarassing, raising such a ruckus about copyright violations only to find you're guilty too. How does it feel?

#1840 of 1840 Time for a time out by pf_flyer HOST

Oct 02, 2002 (4:10 pm)

Once again, we've gotten into this personal battle.

We don't need to do this anymore.

PF Flyer
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