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Toyota Tacoma vs. Ford Ranger, Part XII - READ ONLY
1840 messages, Last post on Oct 02, 2002 at 4:10 PM
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What is this discussion about? Toyota Tacoma, Ford Ranger
#1791 of 1840 **TBUNDY** by plutonious
Oct 01, 2002 (4:14 pm)
"10.2 inches of GC for my liberty is nearly as much as TRD's what, 10.8?">>Standard Tacoma's GC is 10.8", the TRD's is a full foot (12").
"a standard tacoma 4x4 comes with smaller tires, so the lib would be easily over a standard 4x4 taco in GC"
>>Probably more of your BS - I don't feel like researching to prove you wrong for the millionth time.
"liberty is built in an all new facility that is state of the art. it adopts manufacturing techniques the likes of mercedes-benz"
>>Uhm....OK....sure...........
"the liberty...will go many places that other 4x4's can't go simply cuz it is short and high up...it will go ANYWHERE...simply cuz it is shorter wheelbased..."
>>Wouldn't a Samurai or Kia Sportage render your Liberty obsolete with their shorter wheelbases, then? How embarrasing!
"you have a toyota. either way, your 5 year/ 60,000 mile powertrain warranty is small compared to my 7/70K powertrain warranty."
>>Wake up, **TBUNDY** Jeep upgraded their warranty in an effort to put to rest people's fears about Jeep's notorious quality/reliability problems (of which you're already beginning to experience!). Hyundai is doing the same thing with its 10/100K warranty. Toyota relies on their reputation for building quality, reliable products to sell cars, not damage-control extended warranties.
Seems like you were misguided (by the salesman again?!) about the facts which persuaded you to buy your Liberty. Kinda like when you bought your Ranger because you were told it had a locker, right???
"don't you just hate facts? keep trying though."
>>No, I like facts. When arguing with you, they're always in my favor!
#1792 of 1840 73cjdude by plutonious
Oct 01, 2002 (4:23 pm)
**TBUNDY** can't accept that what he thought was a full-fledged Jeep is nothing more than a "Ken & Barbie" version of the Kia Sportage. Go easy on him, would you?#1793 of 1840 locker by nra1871
Oct 01, 2002 (5:12 pm)
Speaking of lockers, how hard is it to get a base tacoma 4x4 with a locker as an option?#1794 of 1840 73cjdude..... by tbunder1
Oct 01, 2002 (6:01 pm)
seems like you're living in the past. if you like leaky floors, windows, and terrible reliability, then i understand why you like the cherokee.obviously you're living in the past. but the liberty has it all over any past cherokee. more power and torque is the first thing i can think of. who needs a V8 when you have a balanced V6 producing over 200 horses and lb/ft of torque?
higher GC than last years cherokee as well. dana axles all around. now, the rubicon would pull your old CJ around any trail. i laughed at your post. go back to watching reruns of TJ Hooker with that father who loved you so much he broke down and parted ways with his "bought new" '73 CJ. what a wheelin machine. those old CJ jeeps just can't be beat now can they? im surprised the wooden paint hasn't rusted away. LMAO
pluto- as usual, you speak of nothing you know anything about (12 inches of GC on TRD? whatever bud). we're used to it though. you're a hoot around here buddy. i actually am starting to think you own a kia. i wouldn't be surprised.
#1795 of 1840 bundy by sc0rpi0
Oct 01, 2002 (6:13 pm)
Right.....you just forget the fact that one can not buy a 4x4 without 31s (call a dealer and try it, for the kicks).I'm not downplaying the big engine nor Dana axles. I have my doubts about your small tires....I've seen Liberty break its bumper open climbing onto a ledge (And he had 3" of lift). Nevermind the bumper, he also destroyed the windshield fluid container "safely" located right behind the plastic.
As for "going anywhere and beyong any Tacoma because it has shorter wheelbase": so.....since Taco RC has 103.3 wheelbase, which is an inch shorter than Liberty, can I now bash Liberty? Since obviously RC has even shorter wheelbase.
#1796 of 1840 nra by sc0rpi0
Oct 01, 2002 (6:14 pm)
It is possible..it's just a $340 option (Toyota offered it in 2002, so it might be in 2003 catalog too). There's a TTORA member who bought one with it. I think you just have to be persuasive with the dealer.#1797 of 1840 **TBUNDY** by plutonious
Oct 01, 2002 (6:21 pm)
"who needs a V8 when you have a balanced V6"
>>I guess you didn't know a V8 (in most configurations) is a naturally balanced engine requiring no counterbalances. A V6 isn't naturally balanced and requires power robbing counterbalances that increase inertial resistance. The biggest advantage of the V6 is that it's COMPACT and can be mounted transversely in front wheel drive cars. Straight 6s or flat (aka boxer) 6s ARE naturally balanced, however. Most knowledgeable people wouldn't refer to a V6 as being a balanced engine, **TBUNDY**
The Tacoma TRD certainly has 12" of clearance: http://www.automotive.com/reviews/2001/Toyota/2001_Toyota_Tacoma.html
Your complete lack of automotive knowlege perfectly explains why you bought a Jeep Liberty and think it's the best thing around...
#1798 of 1840 leaky floors by nra1871
Oct 01, 2002 (6:59 pm)
>seems like you're living in the past. if you like leaky floors, windows, and terrible reliability, then i understand why you like the cherokee.Should I describe the two times I walked out to my ranger and found the passenger floor with an inch of water? Found it the first time and they replaced weatherstripping...second time replaced rear window seal
#1799 of 1840 Yes, by scape2
Oct 01, 2002 (7:11 pm)
I will keep coming back to this room every couple of weeks eagle.. I joined Edmunds back in late 1997 after I bought my 98 Ranger. People like allknowing, know me as Vince8 as do other Tacoma boys. After being told over and over by "the Toyota crowd that my Ranger was going to "fall apart", "junk", "unreliable" I have proven every Toyota fan wrong, and am a Toyota fans worst nightmare. A Ford Ranger owner with 70,000 trouble free miles. I also have use my Ranger 4x4 in the Cascade Mountains, deserts of Eastern/Central Oregon to MT St. Helens, Tillamook Forest, coast Range of Oregon. My Ranger has proven every bit as capable, reliable, and able as any Toyota Tacoma... Stop and take a look around you someday. You will see many Ford Rangers on the road in many variations/years ect..Plut.. Ground clearance is a topic that has been hashed here over and over again. Toyota measures its ground clearance from the highest point.. not the lowest..
#1800 of 1840 scape by nra1871
Oct 01, 2002 (7:24 pm)
> After being told over and over by "the Toyota crowd >that my Ranger was going to "fall apart", "junk", >"unreliable" I have proven every Toyota fan wrong, >and am a Toyota fans worst nightmare.Unfortunately there are us ranger owners who are proving them right, and NOT by choice.
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