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Re: CRV vs Escape vs RAV4 [chuckfromli] by blueiedgod
Aug 25, 2009 (9:14 am)
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Replying to: chuckfromli (Aug 24, 2009 1:35 pm)

Men who drive in traffic, cities, or congested suburbs, so what they have to do to keep their sanity.
 
That is just an excuse...
 
I drove for years in and around NYC and remained sane and none of my limbs fell off.
 
Perhaps the congestion is the result of too many people driving, who shouldn't have been.
 
Had automatics been banned, there would have been fewer "stomp and steer" so called drivers on the roads, and a lot less congestion, and cleaner air. Some people just don't belong on the road, and automatics enable them to be loaded weapons in their hands.
 
Automatics were invented to attract the female buyer to then new automobile. In the essence automatic is just like a dress, should be owned by women, and maybe some men. Everyone else is just making excuses for wearing a dress
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Re: CRV vs Escape vs RAV4 [sr146260211] by blueiedgod
Aug 25, 2009 (9:17 am)
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Replying to: sr146260211 (Aug 24, 2009 10:50 am)

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The '01 CR-V hit 60 mph in 8.4 seconds and the quarter-mile mark in 16.6 seconds at 84 mph. Our '08 required 9.3 and 17.2 seconds, respectively
  
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Zero to 60 mph: 9.4 sec
  
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You'll do 0-60 mph in around 10 seconds

 
The '01 referred to in the article was actually a 2002 model. I have the mid model upgraded 2005, and it does 0-60 in 8 seconds, according to the G-tech device.
 
The last model year "row your own" was an option was 2006.
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Re: CRV vs Escape vs RAV4 [blueiedgod] by chuckfromli
Aug 25, 2009 (11:35 am)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (Aug 25, 2009 9:14 am)

If you drove around NYC, then you know what I mean. I gave up a clutch years ago after I moved to Bklyn. and was still driving out to L.I. beaches on the Belt! Bumper to bumper in an '80 Pinto with a clutch, vinyl nterior and no air. But hey, it was only $4400 brand new, $4700 with the tax!
 
As for now, whatever. It's not like a crossover SUV is a sports car. Maybe somday I'll move out to the country, somewhere uncongested, and rediscover the joys of DIY.
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Re: CRV vs Escape vs RAV4 [baggs32] by chuckfromli
Aug 25, 2009 (11:42 am)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Aug 25, 2009 8:46 am)

I don't know anything about the quality of Honda rotors. I have never owned a Honda, (except for my lawn mower which always starts on the furst pull!)
 
I have no scientific data, nor do I know of any in depth studies regarding Ford rotors, but I did own two Aerostars. The first was bought used, a 1988, and I don't remember much about that one as I only had it a few years. But the scond, a '93, was bought new. It seems the rotors were always warped. I had them cut and replaced several times. I heard somewhere, maybe from my mechanic, that this was a problem on all Fords.
 
It is hard sometimes to drive the car normally, and then have a avoid a puddle of slushy water in the winter. The brakes are just warm, but it seems that ice water warped the Ford rotors more than an other car I have ever had.
 
Nissan and Toyota rotors are excellent, from what I've seen. I also heard once that the American automakers buy their parts from the cheapest supplier, whereas the Japanese continue to buy from proven suppliers they trust, even if it costs a little more.
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Toyota Brakes by motoguy128
Aug 25, 2009 (12:37 pm)
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My experience is that Toyota skimps on their brakes. the brakes in my '91 Tercel were undersized and we were always needing ot have hte rotors turned on our Corollas. The mechanics often mentioned that you could only turn Toyota rotors once, while most other brands you could turn a couple of times.
 
I drove my parents '08 Toyota Camry. Maybe something was wrong with it, but I had 5 adults in the car and I need a LOT of muscle (an I'm a cyclist) had for even a moderate stop. I've had 5 peopel in our Altima and in my previous '04 accord and never needed searly that much brake pressure.
 
My parents also had issues with the wheel bearing and brakes on their '92 Camry and Highlander ('03 model I think???).
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Re: CRV vs Escape vs RAV4 [chuckfromli] by vg33e power
Aug 25, 2009 (1:39 pm)
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Replying to: chuckfromli (Aug 25, 2009 11:42 am)

Well I may be hard on my brakes but I have owned several Hondas, a couple of Nissan Frontiers, and I now own a Mazda as well as the Ford Escape and I can say that all but the Nissans have warped and made my steering wheel shake. Hondas can only take one turning as long as they are not gouged, Nissnas never had to be turned or replaced, my current Mazda I do not know yet as it is the first time I will be doing brakes but I know for sure that the Ford Escape brakes caanot be turned and need to be replaced everytime you replace brake pads. I did it once and I am getting ready to do it again now at 63K miles.
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Re: CRV vs Escape vs RAV4 [baggs32] by berri
Aug 25, 2009 (5:33 pm)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Aug 25, 2009 8:46 am)

I've had Ford, Honda and Toyota recently and found the Ford's needed more frequent brake work, Honda the least. Personally, I'd prefer rear drum brakes because I think they are less hassle and expense. However, if I was driving in mountains I'd prefer rear discs.
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Re: CRV vs Escape vs RAV4 [berri] by vg33e power
Aug 26, 2009 (6:54 am)
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Replying to: berri (Aug 25, 2009 5:33 pm)

berri,
 
What Ford vehicle and Honda vehicle are you comparing as far as longevity? I have had a 96 Civic, 99 Civic, 96 Accord, 02 Civic, 03 Accord and all have needed front brakes and resurfacing by 20K miles. As opposed to my wife's Ford Escape which needed brakes and rotors replaced at 32K miles. My 04 Nissan Frontier I used to have also did not need replcement of pads until about 34K miles and finally my current Mazda5 is needing pads and perhaps rotors after 23K miles.
 
By my own personal experience Honda and now my Mazda require more frequent brake work then that of our Ford Escape or my previous Nissan truck. Also up until 2002 and newer Hondas, Honda's brake performance was very weak needing a lot of effort to stop the vehicle and premature overheating which amounts to warped rotors just my opinion...and BTW I don't hate Honda I am after all a Honda Certified Parts Specialist that works for an Auto Group which includes Honda.
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Re: CRV vs Escape vs RAV4 [vg33e power] by berri
Aug 26, 2009 (7:49 am)
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Replying to: vg33e power (Aug 26, 2009 6:54 am)

CRV needed first brake job at 54K, Ody still on original brakes at 56K, Taurus needed brake work about every 20-22K, Windstar went about 24K (didn't get a second brake job because I got rid of that POS around 32K). The Explorer was the best Ford I owned on brakes (went about 28K, then another at 49K) but it had constant suspension issues. I won't get into vibrating rental car brakes because that wouldn't necessarily be fair.

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