Last post on Nov 22, 2011 at 3:06 PM
You are in the Honda CR-V
What is this discussion about?
Honda CR-V, Ford Escape, Car Safety, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), SUV
#8146 of 8533 Re: Something Slow and Thirsty [nearmsp]
Jan 22, 2007 (10:34 am)
Well we own both a Ford Focus and a Honda Oddysey. I was invited for a random survey (it is not often I get one). I have subscribed for the CR magazine for many years. I definitely would stop my subscription If CR magazine recommendations were not in-line with my experience. So far I have had only one bad experience buying their recommendation (Maytag washing machine). But that is what statistics is all about.
I had a different experience. We owned a '96 Honda Civic and a 2002 Escape, which we upgraded to from a '98 ZX2, at the same time. The Civic gave us far more problems than the two Fords by far. CR was wrong about the Civic and the GE TV they recommended I buy around the time we bought the Civic. I was never a subscriber though.
In general Honda and Toyota quality is better than a Ford or GM quality and that is the reason the public are putting their money where their mouth is.
I agree that Honda and Toyota quality are GENERALLY better than that of the domestics and I said that in one of my posts. I also said that the difference isn't that much anymore and it's just silly to let some stats make your purchase for you IMO.
My argument was that someone was calling the ratings from consumer orgs facts and that is not a fact.
#8147 of 8533 Re: Of course.. [thegraduate]
Jan 22, 2007 (10:34 am)
When is the updated Escape set to his showrooms?
IIRC April or one of the "M" months it's sandwiched between.
#8148 of 8533 Re: Of course.. [baggs32]
Jan 22, 2007 (10:40 am)
#8149 of 8533 Re: Visit [scape2]
Jan 22, 2007 (1:46 pm)
"The way this is stated makes it look like the problem was serious. You fail to mention the cost of the problem and what it is... Why?"
Well, it caused a red "X" on the MSN reliability ratings. Check the original post to which I was replying to get the link. Which I believe you yourself posted...
#8150 of 8533 Re: Something Slow and Thirsty [scape2]
Jan 23, 2007 (4:18 pm)
Show me where there are "tens of thousands" of workers at the Honda/Toyota plants here in the U.S. They hide all the workers they have shipped over from Japan to support these plants.
Others responded with the facts so all I can say to this is wow.
#8151 of 8533 Re: Something Slow and Thirsty [kyfdx]
Jan 26, 2007 (2:20 pm)
What you don't see is what is in the plant. Tooling, machinery, support people, most come from Japan. Assembled, is different than built. Same can go for a supplier or vendor to these plants. Japanese transplants.. same thing, tooling, support, ect all Japanese
#8152 of 8533 Re: Something Slow and Thirsty [scape2]
by kyfdx HOST
Jan 26, 2007 (2:29 pm)
Granted.... a Honda built in Ohio won't have the same domestic content as a Jeep built in Ohio..
But, they build the engines for Accords and Civics right here in Ohio.. They don't ship them in from overseas (as BMW does in South Carolina).
For every Japanese employee that is temporarily assigned to an American auto plant, there are 500 US citizens permanently employed there..
15,000 Ford workers are taking buyouts, just in the Cincinnati area, alone..
#8153 of 8533 Re: Something Slow and Thirsty [drive62]
Jan 27, 2007 (2:06 pm)
Wouldn't you love to hear his conspiracy theories
#8154 of 8533 Re: Something Slow and Thirsty [sky23213]
Jan 28, 2007 (9:19 pm)
When I read the response I got this mental picture of Japanese workers sleeping in a chest of drawers like on Seinfeld.
Feb 16, 2007 (2:56 pm)
I'm still waiting for Honda to fold. In the meantime, my 2005 CR-V is running like a CHAMP!