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Honda CR-V, Ford Escape, Car Safety, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), SUV
#7919 of 8533 Re: i used to enjoy... [drive62]
Nov 29, 2006 (8:08 am)
In addition to brand loyalty I guess I'm guilty of brand disloyalty.
I guess I am guilty too, here is my timeline.
1983 Chevy Celebrity V6, my first car, bought used in 1994) drove for a year and it fell apart.
1985 Honda Civic DX. My first Honda. Bought it with 200,000 miles ($1000), drove it for 1.5 years. The motor mounts broke when I overloaded with my sister's stuff to move her to college. Stupid me sold her (with broken motor mount for $1500 with 250,000 miles). Yes, I sold a broken car for more than I paid for it 18 months earlier.
1987 Honda Accord LXi. I ended up giving that car to my sister a year later. She drove it into a bank wall when she mistook the accelerator for the brake (she is blonde)
1988 Honda Prelude Si 4WS, I still have this car. She is resting in the garage until I find a suitable exhaust system for it. There are not too many options for cars with a steering rack in the front and a steering rack in the back. She still starts right up.
1991 VW Jetta, those were the dark days. I liked the handling of the car, but I did not realize how troublesome VW's were.
1999 Honda Civic EX Coupe, my first new car. Never gave me a problem, but after a few winters I wanted an SUV. I traded her in for a
2001 Honda CR-V SE. Nice little SUV, it was my second car with Automatic, and I hated it. The first auto was the '83 Celibrity. Luckily, someone liked the CR-V more than I and it was stolen from me. It was later found by the Yankee Stadium, stripped. I restored her myself and then traded in for the
2002 Honda Civic Si. It was a great little car, but I moved to Buffalo and got stuck in snow a few times with it. Even though I had good tires, the low clerance would make it ride up on the snow (center line) and lift the wheels off the ground. I traded the Si for
2005 Honda CR-V EX.
Even though I did not personally own any Fords, my girlfriend is a Ford gal. When I met her, she had a
1993 Ford Taurus. I took the responsibility of keeping it running. Those were busy times. She wanted to sell it, but no one would give her mroe than $600 for a 6 year old Taurus with 140,000 miles on it (compare to 10 year old Civic with broken engine mount at 250,000 miles for $1500) She finally gave in and traded it in for $600 for a
1999 Ford Escort ZX2. When we moved to gether we started car pooling in the CR-V and she had to sell it. She could only score $6000 for a 2.5 year old Escort with 20,000 miles. (Compare to 1999 Civic EX that was traded in for CR-V and given $11,000 trade in allowance, both cost $15,000 new)
Then our jobs changed and we needed two cars again. She got a
2002 Ford Focus SE. Then we moved to Buffalo, and when I got the CR-V, she leased an Escape. Ford dealer would not give her more than $6000 for her mint Focus (I got $12,500 for the Si, both cost about $15,000 new).
Nov 30, 2006 (9:33 am)
Kind of interesting. I hope the Green crowd support these types of products.
Sit down for the real inside story on Escape
Published November 30, 2006
LOS ANGELES -- Every little bit helps, though at Ford Motor Co. it would be more appropriate to say every litter bit helps.
Ford unveiled the 2008 Escape SUV at the Los Angeles Auto Show--the gasoline and gas/electric versions will go on sale early next year.
Escape promotes a new design that bears a strong resemblance to the midsize Explorer and full-size Expedition, so all Ford sport-utility vehicles have that family look about them.
But it's what's inside this Escape that merits a close look. It included a center console that for the first time will let you hide a laptop or purse inside.
Yet what's most novel are the seats, which are made of discarded Dr Pepper, Pepsi, Coke or even milk bottles as well as Uncle Harry's golf slacks and Aunt Mabel's frock. Throw in a few pair of old socks for good measure.
But the seats won't be lumpy. Escape, you see, will be the first automotive application of seat fabric made from 100 percent recycled materials. It's supplied by Interface Fabrics and made from what they call "post-industrial recycled materials."
Translated, that means old plastic bottles and old clothing--from garbage can and attic to passenger cabin, not landfills.
As an added benefit, the material is waterproof.
Appropriately, the hybrid Escape and hybrid Mercury Mariner will offer the cloth as standard. It will be optional in the gasoline Escape and Mariner. No price as yet.
For those keeping track, Ford estimates that using recycled material will save 7 million kilowatt hours of electricity and 600,000 gallons of water that would have gone into the production of virgin fibers.
And Escape and Mariner will be just the start, Ford says.
#7921 of 8533 Re: '08 Escape [drive62]
Nov 30, 2006 (2:05 pm)
#7922 of 8533 Re: i used to enjoy... [blueiedgod]
Nov 30, 2006 (3:58 pm)
glad you have good luck with your hondas. some of the prices paid say more about the people than the vehicles.
#7923 of 8533 2008 Escape vs. '07 CR-V
Dec 02, 2006 (8:09 am)
The new Escape already looks like a dated boxy Explorer and the new CR-v has an interesting, curved and upscale appearance. The Escape interior, while new is too square and boxy while most of the competition has gone with flowing curved and more elegant interiors.
I owned an '02 Escape and it was an OK suv, but sounded like a tin-can when you closed the doors and it was very noisy - too utilitarian, like the new Escape, not for me.
#7924 of 8533 Re: 2008 Escape vs. '07 CR-V [grega]
Dec 02, 2006 (1:50 pm)
Seems to me the new CR-V has morphed into an almost CUV while the new Escape remains an SUV. Although I'm sure there will be some crossover shoppers I think they now serve different markets, certainly more than the previous models did. I'm not up to date on the new Edge, but maybe that will more in this new CUV category.
BTW with the latest sales figures, Ford is number four. I guess there is a new definition of "The Big Three".
#7925 of 8533 Upon further review
Dec 03, 2006 (7:41 pm)
The Edge is in a different league than the CR-V. Local paper has a review of the new Ford Edge. Price as tested was $36,175 , review specifically mentions how the options carry a hefty premium. MPG rating is 17/24 for the AWD model .
#7926 of 8533 Re: 2008 Escape vs. '07 CR-V [drive62]
Dec 03, 2006 (9:35 pm)
Well, lots of people prefer to think of "their" particular vehicle as a SUV. If you aren't driving a Jeep, Land Rover or the like, it is just your good idea.
Escape, CR-V, Santa Fe, Murano, Pilot, all of those are more car than truck and not true SUV's. Most even include warnings in the owners manual that they are not made for real off road use, more than a dirt Forest Service road....
#7927 of 8533 Re: 2008 Escape vs. '07 CR-V [terry92270]
Dec 04, 2006 (7:21 pm)
if can say one thing defense of the escape as an suv, the low speed throttle control is great. i spent almost 2 hours in stop and go real slow traffic for 10+ miles. my outside temp went to 100+ degrees, but the throttle remained predictable the whole time.
#7928 of 8533 Re: 2008 Escape vs. '07 CR-V [explorerx4]
Dec 04, 2006 (8:11 pm)
Well, not being a "real" SUV doesn't mean all those vehicles I mentioned above aren't damn fine cars.
I also noticed that in my Brother's GL450, the throttle remained constant as well....