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#7912 of 8533 Re: i used to enjoy... [blueiedgod] by thegraduate

Nov 21, 2006 (5:41 pm)

Replying to: blueiedgod (Nov 21, 2006 1:30 pm)
I think Varmint had over 100,000 miles on the CR-V. Scape didn't. Maybe he didn't think that his Trouble Free Escape could remain as trouble free approaching 100,000 miles.
 
C'mon now, let's not put words in anybody's mouth; that's not really fair to scape. He suggests that Ford's are unreliable more than most people on here, I don't think you have to do that for him.
 
A lot of people (my father, for example) trade cars just because they want something new. My dad rarely goes over 2 years with his cars, any cars. Usually, they have about 60k miles when he trades.
 
My mom's cars last a lot longer around here; the last two consisted of a 1993 Accord, traded with 115,000 miles on her 2000 Odyssey, which we had only 39,000 when traded in 66 months later (in Nov. 2005 for my 2006 Accord EX).

#7913 of 8533 Re: i used to enjoy... [steve_] by drive62

Nov 22, 2006 (12:43 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Nov 20, 2006 8:28 pm)
In addition to brand loyalty I guess I'm guilty of brand disloyalty.
 
My first new vehicle purchase was a GM product. It was in the mid 80's, arguably their low point in terms of....well, everything. Sold it two years later and bought a Honda which performed flawlessly. So when it was time for my next vehicle purchase I bought another Honda, and then another Honda. All the Hondas (including the current, knock wood) were/are excellent vehicles.
 
I know the domestics have made progress in terms of quality, reliability, etc. but I see no reason to fix what isn't broken and change my brand affiliation.

#7914 of 8533 Re: i used to enjoy... [drive62] by steve_ HOST

Nov 22, 2006 (12:59 pm)

Replying to: drive62 (Nov 22, 2006 12:43 pm)
"guilty of brand disloyalty"
 
That's another interesting thing about human psychology I guess. I had two '74 Volvo sedans and they both were unreliable (one was wrecked and was replaced with a similar one). I've been leery of them ever since.
 
But I also drove a new '73 or '74 Jeep CJ-5 for three years and I've told people for years about how peppy it was off the line and how good it ran. I keep forgetting how the gas tank rusted away (the soft top that rotted away I could understand) and I also had issues with the windshield wiper motor, and probably some other stuff that I've forgotten.
 
One of my 70ish SuperBeetles broke down a lot but it was fixable with some matchsticks in the alternator so that was sort of a fun memory. My wife made me sell it right after we met, lol.
 
Never say never - better go hit the GM showroom and take another look around!

#7915 of 8533 Re: i used to enjoy... [steve_] by drive62

Nov 22, 2006 (4:00 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Nov 22, 2006 12:59 pm)
Never say never - better go hit the GM showroom and take another look around!
 
Maybe after I had gone through every Honda available, then Toyota, then Subaru (which had a GM slant to it at one time), then the Koreans, then..... Way too many good options out there before GM would even enter my radar. But if I were looking for a used vehicle, you can't beat a 50% markdown on a one year old vehicle, but then again it is a GM, and I don't buy used .

#7916 of 8533 Kind of funny by scape2

Nov 28, 2006 (8:06 pm)

Don't you ever wonder why its golden word when someone says "My Honda/Toyota went 1 million miles with no problems" Yet when a Ford/GM person comes in and says thier GM/Ford product went 1 million miles it cannot be true?? Take a look at the reliability ratings of the Escape/Tribute/Mariner at MSN reliability ratings. Your going to be surprised. Also, as I mentions the Escape come in right behind the CRV, I mean right behind in TCO here at Edmunds. My wife owns an 04 Tribute ES V6 4WD and so far its been fine too! Hmm.. pattern here?

#7917 of 8533 Re: Kind of funny [scape2] by thegraduate

Nov 28, 2006 (8:10 pm)

Replying to: scape2 (Nov 28, 2006 8:06 pm)
Yet when a Ford/GM person comes in and says thier GM/Ford product went 1 million miles it cannot be true??
 
Would you mind showing me an instance like this? Something must have happened for you to say this; either that, or you like being a Ford martyr.

#7918 of 8533 Re: Kind of funny [scape2] by drive62

Nov 28, 2006 (8:16 pm)

Replying to: scape2 (Nov 28, 2006 8:06 pm)
No doubt plenty of GM and Ford products have been reliable, but I think it's pretty fair to say that older imports on the road outnumber older domestics.
 
I don't think an '04 Mazda (kind of funny you use an import brand to defend the longevity of domestics---yes I know it's essentially an Escape---but it still is branded Mazda) qualifies for longevity. My father's '91 Ford Escort (although it was heavily influenced by Mazda--which was still a Japanese automaker at that time--it is a Ford) looks like it is finally getting put out to pasture. Not a ton of miles, but it had a long life. I'm sure he fact that he is a shade tree mechanic helped.
 
Come back and report on your Mazda in thirteen years .

#7919 of 8533 Re: i used to enjoy... [drive62] by blueiedgod

Nov 29, 2006 (8:08 am)

Replying to: drive62 (Nov 22, 2006 12:43 pm)
In addition to brand loyalty I guess I'm guilty of brand disloyalty.
 
I guess I am guilty too, here is my timeline.
 
1983 Chevy Celebrity V6, my first car, bought used in 1994) drove for a year and it fell apart.
 
1985 Honda Civic DX. My first Honda. Bought it with 200,000 miles ($1000), drove it for 1.5 years. The motor mounts broke when I overloaded with my sister's stuff to move her to college. Stupid me sold her (with broken motor mount for $1500 with 250,000 miles). Yes, I sold a broken car for more than I paid for it 18 months earlier.
 
1987 Honda Accord LXi. I ended up giving that car to my sister a year later. She drove it into a bank wall when she mistook the accelerator for the brake (she is blonde)
 
1988 Honda Prelude Si 4WS, I still have this car. She is resting in the garage until I find a suitable exhaust system for it. There are not too many options for cars with a steering rack in the front and a steering rack in the back. She still starts right up.
 
1991 VW Jetta, those were the dark days. I liked the handling of the car, but I did not realize how troublesome VW's were.
 
1999 Honda Civic EX Coupe, my first new car. Never gave me a problem, but after a few winters I wanted an SUV. I traded her in for a
 
2001 Honda CR-V SE. Nice little SUV, it was my second car with Automatic, and I hated it. The first auto was the '83 Celibrity. Luckily, someone liked the CR-V more than I and it was stolen from me. It was later found by the Yankee Stadium, stripped. I restored her myself and then traded in for the
 
2002 Honda Civic Si. It was a great little car, but I moved to Buffalo and got stuck in snow a few times with it. Even though I had good tires, the low clerance would make it ride up on the snow (center line) and lift the wheels off the ground. I traded the Si for
 
2005 Honda CR-V EX.
 
Even though I did not personally own any Fords, my girlfriend is a Ford gal. When I met her, she had a
 
1993 Ford Taurus. I took the responsibility of keeping it running. Those were busy times. She wanted to sell it, but no one would give her mroe than $600 for a 6 year old Taurus with 140,000 miles on it (compare to 10 year old Civic with broken engine mount at 250,000 miles for $1500) She finally gave in and traded it in for $600 for a
 
1999 Ford Escort ZX2. When we moved to gether we started car pooling in the CR-V and she had to sell it. She could only score $6000 for a 2.5 year old Escort with 20,000 miles. (Compare to 1999 Civic EX that was traded in for CR-V and given $11,000 trade in allowance, both cost $15,000 new)
Then our jobs changed and we needed two cars again. She got a
2002 Ford Focus SE. Then we moved to Buffalo, and when I got the CR-V, she leased an Escape. Ford dealer would not give her more than $6000 for her mint Focus (I got $12,500 for the Si, both cost about $15,000 new).

#7920 of 8533 '08 Escape by drive62

Nov 30, 2006 (9:33 am)

Kind of interesting. I hope the Green crowd support these types of products.
 
Sit down for the real inside story on Escape
 
Published November 30, 2006
 
LOS ANGELES -- Every little bit helps, though at Ford Motor Co. it would be more appropriate to say every litter bit helps.
 
Ford unveiled the 2008 Escape SUV at the Los Angeles Auto Show--the gasoline and gas/electric versions will go on sale early next year.
 
Escape promotes a new design that bears a strong resemblance to the midsize Explorer and full-size Expedition, so all Ford sport-utility vehicles have that family look about them.
 
But it's what's inside this Escape that merits a close look. It included a center console that for the first time will let you hide a laptop or purse inside.
 
Yet what's most novel are the seats, which are made of discarded Dr Pepper, Pepsi, Coke or even milk bottles as well as Uncle Harry's golf slacks and Aunt Mabel's frock. Throw in a few pair of old socks for good measure.
 
But the seats won't be lumpy. Escape, you see, will be the first automotive application of seat fabric made from 100 percent recycled materials. It's supplied by Interface Fabrics and made from what they call "post-industrial recycled materials."
 
Translated, that means old plastic bottles and old clothing--from garbage can and attic to passenger cabin, not landfills.
 
As an added benefit, the material is waterproof.
 
Appropriately, the hybrid Escape and hybrid Mercury Mariner will offer the cloth as standard. It will be optional in the gasoline Escape and Mariner. No price as yet.
 
For those keeping track, Ford estimates that using recycled material will save 7 million kilowatt hours of electricity and 600,000 gallons of water that would have gone into the production of virgin fibers.
 
And Escape and Mariner will be just the start, Ford says.

#7921 of 8533 Re: '08 Escape [drive62] by thegraduate

Nov 30, 2006 (2:05 pm)

Replying to: drive62 (Nov 30, 2006 9:33 am)
Total garbage.
 
...Pun intended.

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