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Nov 20, 2006 (1:57 pm)
After 75,000 trouble free miles I was still waiting for this predication from the Honda crowd!
I no longer own the Escape
You answered your own question.
Both "the Graduate" and I asked you to come back and report reliability of the 2001 Escape at 150,000, 200,000 and 500,000 miles. I guess you won't be doing that. So, you will have to settle with what CR, and other credible sources say: "Honda is better than Ford"
#7902 of 8533 i used to enjoy...
by explorerx4
Nov 20, 2006 (4:42 pm)
jousting with 'varm. he sold his cr-v. conclusion?
escape and cr-v are entry level vehicles in their class.
many people move on for their own reasons.
#7903 of 8533 Re: i used to enjoy... [explorerx4]
by thegraduate
Nov 20, 2006 (8:01 pm)
Well, I think it says a lot that he chose another Ford, albeit one of a different class (a midsize sedan instead of a cute-ute). He has his brand loyalty, and Fords continue to please him. There's nothing wrong with that, and it speaks well of Ford's initial satisfaction (it says nothing for long-term, is what blueiedgod was saying, I think), because he kept is about 5 years and 75,000 miles, a relatively short span in a car's long life.
#7904 of 8533 Re: i used to enjoy... [explorerx4]
by drive62
Nov 20, 2006 (8:02 pm)
Scape2 sold his Escape and got a Fusion, kind of different vehicles. varmint moved up to an MDX, same class of vehicle. Both stayed with their brand though. I said earlier Scape2 is consistent (right down to arguing with other Honda owners about his Fusion vs. their Honda). Many buyers are, brand loyalty is very prevalent.
#7905 of 8533 Re: i used to enjoy... [drive62]
by steve_ HOST
Nov 20, 2006 (8:28 pm)
brand loyalty is very prevalent
Interesting point; I have had 3 Nissans in the last 25 years (two Datsun wagons and still driving a Quest assembled by Ford) so I guess I'm a bit partial to them.
But I've had 2 VWs, a Plymouth, a Toyota and a Subaru in that time too, and I shopped Honda hard last time around (to the point of going home to get my checkbook before I got mad at the dealer).
When I'm ready to buy again, I guess I'll see which brand has the best sale going on and who has the least idiotic dealer that week.
#7906 of 8533 Re: i used to enjoy... [steve_]
by terry92270
Nov 20, 2006 (9:06 pm)
As for brand loyalty, you can say that again!
I have owned four motor homes. Two from Ford, one on a GM platform, the current is a diesel pusher. I had the GM based one in between the two Fords. Nothing but transmission problems, and this is constantly a complaint of owners in the RV publications. Just something GM can't get right for big loads. The Ford Super Duty platform is, and always has been, impeccable. The Taurus I had was a superlative workhorse as well.
Aside from the GM platform Bus style RV, I also had a 2005 Impala, SS. It was a great car, and somewhat restored my confidence in Detroit until I bought a TransAM.
Overall, I have never had the bad experiences with dealers or vehicles with Subaru, Nissan and Toyota, that I have had with the Big Three.
#7908 of 8533 Re: Report on my 2002 cr-v [norne]
by mikefm58
Nov 21, 2006 (7:55 am)
Thx for the report. Reliable? Not even close to my '99 with 125K miles. Only two issues I've had are the radiator cracked and the driver's side door power lock doesn't work.
#7909 of 8533 Re: i used to enjoy... [explorerx4]
by blueiedgod
Nov 21, 2006 (1:30 pm)
jousting with 'varm. he sold his cr-v. conclusion?
escape and cr-v are entry level vehicles in their class.
many people move on for their own reasons.
I think Varmint had over 100,000 miles on the CR-V. Scape didn't. Maybe he didn't think that his Trouble Free Escape could remain as trouble free approaching 100,000 miles.
#7910 of 8533 The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety list
by terry92270
Nov 21, 2006 (1:58 pm)
The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety has released it's list of the safest cars for 2007.
The Institute breaks the cars down into the following categories: large Car, midsize Car, minivan, luxury SUV, midsize SUV and small SUV.
In the large car market, only the Audi A6 earned top honors. In the midsize car ratings, the Audi A4, Saab 9-3, and Subaru Legacy (with optional electronic stability control). And in Minivans, the Hyundai Entourage and Kia Sedona both earned top honors.
Moving to the SUV class, in the Luxury series, the Volvo XC90 and Mercedes M class topped the list. In the midsize arena, the Acura RDX and Honda Pilot both earned high marks. Finally, in the small SUV size, the Honda CR-V and Subaru Forester (with optional electronic stability control) took top honors.
Interestingly, not one American car made the list this year....
The Institute rates vehicles as good, acceptable, marginal, or poor based on performance in high-speed front and side crash tests, plus evaluations of seat/head restraints for protection against neck injuries in rear impacts.
The first requirement for a vehicle to become a Top Safety Pick is to earn good ratings in all three Institute tests.
A new requirement for 2007 is that the winning vehicles must offer electronic stability control. This addition is based on Institute research indicating that electronic stability control significantly reduces crash risk. Especially the risk of fatal single vehicle crashes. The electronic control helps drivers maintain control of their vehicles during emergency maneuvers.