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#7709 of 8533 Re: 2007 CR-V [dromedarius] by scape2

May 02, 2006 (7:54 pm)

Replying to: dromedarius (May 02, 2006 3:26 pm)
Well, you make me chuckle too...
"despite the documented problems all over the web". But, you don't go out on the web and see the issues with the CRV?
I never said the CRV has "all sorts of problems" What I am saying is the CRV is not as perfect as some so wish to believe. If people would get out of Edmunds and go to other rooms they would see this.
On the other hand, Honda folks want so badly for everyone to believe the Ford Escape is a vehicle that is problematic. Not so. Proven under the new TCO right here at Edmunds. and if you visit MSN reliability data under thier car segment you will see also it would prove again...
Fact is the internet is proving that Honda's are not as perfect as the media leads everyone to believe. This is a sore spot with those that paid the extra $$$ for this title of silver "H" and is sure makes some unhappy when the truth is out...
I have never said Honda doesn't make good vehicles. What I am saying is thier are vehicles built that are every bit as good for less money now.. Got to love the free market. It was only a matter of time for this to happen.

#7710 of 8533 Re: Opening the rear hatch [drive62] by scape2

May 02, 2006 (8:03 pm)

Replying to: drive62 (May 02, 2006 10:05 am)
For every "expert" I can find another "expert" that says something contrary..
There are stats that show Escape 0-60 numbers quicker than an automatic CRV.
Besides, what you don't seem to understand is with a 5spd you have much more control over when you shift than in an automatic. In order to achieve the 0-60 numbers posted you have to redline the he... out of the CRV. I have done it in a CRV I know. With an automatic you are unable to rev the heck out of the engine through all gears. Now do you understand??

#7711 of 8533 Automatics will redline, too [scape2] by thegraduate

May 02, 2006 (8:41 pm)

Replying to: scape2 (May 02, 2006 8:03 pm)
With an automatic you are unable to rev the heck out of the engine through all gears
 
I think drive62 has a better grasp on how an automatic works.
 
I don't know what automatic you drive that shifts well below redline as you say they do if the throttle isn't floored. Shoot, my 1996 Accord I-4 4-speed Auto will still shoot over 6,000 RPM (Redline is 6,300 RPM in that car) if you floor it and hold it up to a shift point (38MPH, 77MPH, don't know about higer speed-shift points). If your Auto-equipped Escape doesn't operate in this manner, then you need to have your transmission inspected and fixed, because it should rev to near, if not at, redline, when floored in a standing acceleration run. I hope your car doesn't have problems, and instead, you are mistaken about how an automatic works when going at WOT.

#7712 of 8533 Re: 2007 CR-V [scape2] by midwesttrader

May 03, 2006 (8:45 am)

Replying to: scape2 (May 02, 2006 7:54 pm)
Hey Scape I checked out that MSN reliability data like you suggested:
 
'06 CR-V MSN Ratings 8.3/9.6 CR Score 73
"The CR-V is one of the better car-based SUVs on the market and is competitively priced. The four-cylinder engine is more energetic, refined, and economical than some competitors' V6s. The five-speed automatic transmission is very smooth and responsive. Road noise is our only complaint. Crash-test results are impressive."
 
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Reliability.aspx?year=2006&make=Honda&model=CR- - -V&trimid=-1
 
'06 Escape MSN Rating 7.4/9.4 CR Score 61
"We do not recommend the Escape because of a tip-up in the government rollover test. The hybrid has above-average reliability while the regular version has been average."
 
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Reliability.aspx?year=2006&make=Ford&model=Esc- - ape&trimid=-1

#7713 of 8533 Re: Opening the rear hatch [scape2] by drive62

May 03, 2006 (9:27 am)

Replying to: scape2 (May 02, 2006 8:03 pm)
For every "expert" I can find another "expert" that says something contrary..
 
Feel free to post them. One of your recent suggestions for finding information already proves you wrong.
 
Motor Trend, Car and Driver, Consumer Reports and Motorweek are all pretty respectable publications/review programs. As I said, feel free to post these other "experts" but if it's Bob Bumpas from the Picayune Times it ain't gonna cut it (no offense to Bob or Picayune ).

#7714 of 8533 Re: 2007 CR-V [midwesttrader] by drive62

May 03, 2006 (9:23 am)

Replying to: midwesttrader (May 03, 2006 8:45 am)
We do not recommend the Escape because of a tip-up in the government rollover test.
 
Consumer Reports reported this almost two years ago. Posted it here and basically no repsonse.

#7715 of 8533 Re: Opening the rear hatch [drive62] by blueiedgod

May 03, 2006 (10:57 am)

Replying to: drive62 (May 03, 2006 9:27 am)
Motor Trend, Car and Driver, Consumer Reports and Motorweek are all pretty respectable publications/review programs.
 
In Scape's defence: "It is all a conspiracy on part of Honda to brainwash Americans into believing that Honda products are the best. See, Hond ahad this plan to build great and very reliable cars in the 80's, and now that everyone believes that Honda builds great cars, they just market utter cow dung, and then bribe the editors at all these magazines and website to say that it is better than competition. Conspiracy, I tell you!"
 
I bet you JFK and Jimmy Hoffa are laughing their behinds off on some remote paradise island sipping margaritas. Their only fear is that Scape will figure them out next.

#7716 of 8533 Re: Automatics will redline, too [thegraduate] by dromedarius

May 03, 2006 (4:55 pm)

Replying to: thegraduate (May 02, 2006 8:41 pm)
I don't know what automatic you drive that shifts well below redline as you say they do if the throttle isn't floored. Shoot, my 1996 Accord I-4 4-speed Auto will still shoot over 6,000 RPM (Redline is 6,300 RPM in that car) if you floor it and hold it up to a shift point (38MPH, 77MPH, don't know about higer speed-shift points). If your Auto-equipped Escape doesn't operate in this manner, then you need to have your transmission inspected and fixed, because it should rev to near, if not at, redline, when floored in a standing acceleration run. I hope your car doesn't have problems, and instead, you are mistaken about how an automatic works when going at WOT.
 
Exactly. If your automatic transmission doesn't hold revs until the redline it isn't working correctly. Also, like I said before, you can't tout 200 hp all the time if you never rev about 4000 rpm, cuz guess what, you ain't makin' 200 horses 4000 rpm. You ain't even at the torque peak. Not in an Escape, at least.
 
 
 
PS - I was riding with a buddy in an M3 today and guess what...he was REDLINING it THROUGH the GEARS! Through second gear, at least. It didn't even blow up. In fact, it was pretty fun!!!
 
 

#7717 of 8533 New pics of Escape Twin by thegraduate

May 03, 2006 (6:58 pm)

The revised Mercury Mariner looks like an Escape with makeup on its face.
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#7718 of 8533 Re: Automatics will redline, too [dromedarius] by scape2

May 03, 2006 (8:46 pm)

Replying to: dromedarius (May 03, 2006 4:55 pm)
Why doesn't it surprise me, that another Honda fan would only believe another Honda fan on what he knows about transmissions.. surprise!
There is nothing wrong with my transmission. Yet another Honda spoof. My car does redline but it doesn't "Hold" it like you can with a 5spd. Do you guys know how to drive a 5spd? I used to race and build Hot rods in my younger years by the way. So, I do know plenty about transmissions/HP/torque/Torque curves ect.. But.. Hey I'm a Ford fan, I don't know anyting right!??

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