Last post on Nov 22, 2011 at 3:06 PM
You are in the Honda CR-V
What is this discussion about?
Honda CR-V, Ford Escape, Car Safety, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), SUV
#7656 of 8533 Re: 2007 CR-V [scape2]
Apr 28, 2006 (7:51 am)
The hatch works just fine on my CR-V. It has opened and closed successfully everytime. I'm not sure why you consider this weakness, then...
Also, if change is weakness, why did Ford change the 4WD system on the Escape??? Was there something wrong with the previous one? Was it contributing to all of the rollovers, wheels coming off, accelerator sticking, engine starting on fire, etc., etc., which have all been WELL documented???
#7657 of 8533 Re: 2007 CR-V [baggs32]
Apr 28, 2006 (8:14 am)
Yeah, problem is, we have a split level house, which means only a half-length garage. It took a LOT of careful planning before we got our Odyssey (we needed the van, but it barely fit in the garage at all). With the CR-V's side door, we could open it maybe 20 degrees without it hitting the garage door, slide in, get out a backback, groceries, et.al.. and close it back. Can't do the same thing with a vertical hatch (raise it twenty degrees gets you just as close to the garage door, but without the access to the cargo. Thus, no unloading the new CRV without the garage door open.
ACtually, our Odyssey had to be unloaded OUTSIDE, because the hatch would hit the garage door itself
#7658 of 8533 Re: 2007 CR-V [baggs32]
Apr 28, 2006 (10:09 am)
"A lot of station wagons I remember riding in the back of, un-belted and wrestling with friends , had a power window on the rear door that went down into the door rather than the pop-up type you see today.
Come to think of it, most of the rear doors on those beasts opened sideways instead of up. And they weighed a ton too! Now all our kids have to do is push a button to get the hatch open. How boring."
I was waiting for someone else to notice the difference. Yes, the glass slid into the door instead of popping up. I consider sliding into the door to be superior.
The doors in those station wagons opened either down OR sideways, whichever way you wanted to open it. This feature was reanimated with the Honda Ridgeline, and is a very functional and cool feature.
#7659 of 8533 Re: 2007 CR-V [dromedarius]
Apr 28, 2006 (10:08 am)
You didn't specifically mention the engine stalling. One of the Escape's numerous documented problems. I don't know if they ever figured it out. I'd hate to be driving a vehicle that may just die at any time. Doesn't really matter which way the hatch opens when your vehicle dies in the middle of a highway.
#7660 of 8533 Re: 2007 CR-V [stevedebi]
Apr 28, 2006 (10:14 am)
One of my father's several 60's Chevy wagons (Honda, Toyota and Datsun were still in their infancy in the US, he had yet to give up the domestics) like you say the tailgate opened sideways and down like a pick up truck. I think most of them in that era did that. And yes the glass slid down; turning the key a certain way did it IIRC. Being the youngest I was always relegated to the "back back" as we called it. I enjoyed it but thinking back on it, it wasn't very safe.
#7661 of 8533 Re: 2007 CR-V [drive62]
Apr 28, 2006 (11:37 am)
You didn't specifically mention the engine stalling. One of the Escape's numerous documented problems. I don't know if they ever figured it out.
They did. A recall was issued to fix it about three years ago.
#7662 of 8533 Re: 2007 CR-V [drive62]
Apr 28, 2006 (12:25 pm)
"Being the youngest I was always relegated to the "back back" as we called it. I enjoyed it but thinking back on it, it wasn't very safe."
Well, for most collisions it wasn't that bad. IIRC, those seats faced backwards, which would have help stop the kids in a forward accident. But in general I agree, it was a bit dangerous. Not that I ever heard of an incident in which the "back back" passengers were injured...
#7663 of 8533 Re: 2007 CR-V [stevedebi]
Apr 28, 2006 (1:30 pm)
You were also surrounded by a truck frame and what seemed like tons of sheet metal and chrome. Those rear doors were about two feet thick too.
I'm sure there's a good reason why we don't see seats like that anymore though.
#7664 of 8533 Re: 2007 CR-V [baggs32]
Apr 28, 2006 (3:43 pm)
while the cr-v owners were arguing with the escape owners about the rear access, honda was listening and agreed with us.
#7665 of 8533 Re: 2007 CR-V [explorerx4]
Apr 28, 2006 (4:26 pm)
And Ford is planning on discontinuing the Escape...what does that say???