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Honda CR-V, Ford Escape, Car Safety, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), SUV
#7618 of 8533 Re: 2007 Escape spy shot [stevedebi]
Apr 22, 2006 (6:50 pm)
Did Ford revamp the mechanicals to go along with the new metal?
Haven't heard a peep about that yet. I wouldn't be surprised to see the 220 HP version of the Duratec30 under the hood though. Since it's already being produced for a high volume car while others that had the 200 HP version are dying off or moving to the 265 HP Duratec35 it makes sense to streamline in that fashion. I believe the Escape would be the only Ford left with the 200 HP version come this time next year if they keep it in there.
This is just speculation on my part so don't quote any of this.
#7619 of 8533 From a HondaSUV forum
Apr 25, 2006 (5:39 am)
This is by a member "Got Diesel" on the HondaSUV forum:
"I drove a rental Escape V-6 last week.
There are things I liked about it better than our CR-V.
For me (6'3") the front seats in the Escape are better. The one I rented had power seats which almost always offer more adjustments. I could adjust the rake of the bottom cushion to support my thighs far more comfortably than is possible in our CR-V.
I wish the CR-V had more flexibility in that area.
The Escape also seems to have more headroom, but it didn't have a moonroof which our EX does and that is probably significant.
The Escape has a firmer brake pedal than the CR-V but I don't know if it stops better. I just like firmer brake pedals.
It also has a far quieter ride on rough pavement, even with the Conti-trac tires, which I know from experience with our Jeep GC are not a particularly quiet or smooth riding tire.
But... that's the end of the wins in my book.
The engine is crude, despite 50% more pistons. It has more than adequate power, but at the expense of economy. The throttle seems more touchy as well. And I have never found the CR-V inadequate in the power department.
The ride is firmer, almost jiggly. The CR-V has an amazingly well calibrated set of shocks/springs.
The cargo area floor has to be at least half a foot higher than the CR-V. That would make it tough for the older of my two dogs to get into.
The Escape, I've read, was engineered in large part by Mazda, so I expect it will hold together pretty well.
I wouldn't throw stones at anybody who buys an Escape. A friend of ours has a hybrid Escape and she actually averages 29 mpg. But to get that, she had to pay $5K more than we did for our CR-V.
At least it's not an Explorer, for which I have almost zero respect."
#7620 of 8533 Re: From a HondaSUV forum [blueiedgod]
Apr 25, 2006 (11:06 am)
Sounds about right based on my extended experience with the CR-V (not really quiet or incredibly roomy up front (great in back though, just needs more driver's seat travel for my 6'4" frame). I have only spent about 3 hours in an Escape in my lifetime, so i can't say much to the other of what they are saying. Sounds credible though.
Ride quality and quietness is something nobody here has addressed in a long time.
Apr 25, 2006 (1:53 pm)
On a trip from NE to NYC I rode along with a buddy of mine who has a 2WD 2002 XLT. With almost 70k miles, I have to say, that thing is rock solid over the crappy RT95 tarmac. Not a rattle or a squeek and the suspension never felt overworked. On the highway it cruised nicely at about 80 mph and returned a solid 26 mpg. The engine note is a bit raspy and unrefined at WOT and the CD player wouldn't give me back my discs but all in all...
Nice. Would consider one even today.
#7622 of 8533 Re: E'Scape' [anythngbutgm]
Apr 25, 2006 (1:56 pm)
The CD player broke on the trip? Not good!
#7623 of 8533 Re: E'Scape' [anythngbutgm]
Apr 25, 2006 (2:36 pm)
"On the highway it cruised nicely at about 80 mph and returned a solid 26 mpg. "
Was that a 4 or 6 cylinder?
#7624 of 8533 Re: E'Scape' [stevedebi]
Apr 25, 2006 (5:08 pm)
I can't speak for anythngbutgm but I was getting 24 MPG on the highway in our '02 XLT V6 with a little extra air in the tires. I don't recall the exact mileage but it was most likely somewhere in the low to mid teens when I did that. 26 MPG is probably possible with the V6 after years of break in and tender care. I wouldn't say it's the norm though.
#7625 of 8533 Re: E'Scape' [anythngbutgm]
Apr 25, 2006 (5:10 pm)
the CD player wouldn't give me back my discs but all in all...
Did they have sticker labels on them by any chance? Ford did issue a TSB and a special mailing to all owners informing them that sticker labels can jam the CD changer.
#7627 of 8533 Re: E'Scape' [stevedebi]
Apr 26, 2006 (8:21 am)
6 cylinder, XLT.
It was a FWD'er so it didn't have the extra weight of the 4WD system. CD had no stickers on it and you actually have to futz around with it a bit to get it to eject.
I was disappointed because it was Live's "Mental Jewelry" which is one of the greats of all time IMO. Love that disc.