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CR-V vs Escape

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What is this discussion about? Honda CR-V, Ford Escape, Car Safety, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), SUV

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#6964 of 8533 Re: let's see... [explorerx4] by blueiedgod

Dec 03, 2005 (6:27 am)

Replying to: explorerx4 (Dec 02, 2005 6:23 pm)
5 year ago, ford took a car platform(626), made an entry level suv. 5 years later with minimal changes to the escape, the competition is still trying to convince everyone they are better. ford sure is stupid.
 
First Toyota took a Corolla ptaform and made RAV4, coincidentally, Honda took Civic platform and came out with CR-V in 1996. Where was Ford in 1996? Took them quite a few years to realize that this is what people wanted. They took a midsize platform to make a mediocre vehicle with mediocre reliabity and mediocre fuel efficiency. Then they threw in a slew of incentives to make the gullible people think that they were getting a good deal. Seems like Ford never cought up to Honda and Toyota. So, yes, other makes, like KIA and Hyundai (same company now) are probably striving to catch up to Ford. But Ford is still catching up to Honda and Toyota. Looks like Ford is giving up anyway, I hear there is no more Escape/Trubite after 2007. There is a new 2006 RAV4 and 2007 CR-V coming out. No Escape, I guess Ford just realize they can't compete in the small SUV segment on price, fuel efficiency, reliabity and quality of assembly.

#6965 of 8533 Re: Funny... [sockpuppet1969] by blueiedgod

Dec 03, 2005 (6:30 am)

Replying to: sockpuppet1969 (Dec 02, 2005 6:59 pm)
I have been following this debate for a little while now. It seems to be the most active on the CRV board. This is funny to me because no one on either side of the argument seems like they would even consider purchasing the other vehicle.
 
I have both, no one else on this board can say that. I am the only poster who is qualified to make the comparisons. Everything else is OPINION. Hear me, Scape, Explorer... ect?

#6966 of 8533 Re: Funny... [blueiedgod] by suvshopper4

Dec 03, 2005 (6:36 am)

Replying to: blueiedgod (Dec 03, 2005 6:30 am)
No wonder he's a god.

#6967 of 8533 Re: let's see... [explorerx4] by varmint

Dec 03, 2005 (11:03 am)

Replying to: explorerx4 (Dec 02, 2005 6:39 pm)
Honda dealers were getting MSRP (or within $500 of it) for CR-Vs through 2002 and 2003. Essentially, the first two and a half years it was offered.
 
Even now, as the CR-V enters it's final year for this design, YTD sales are up and Honda isn't using big discounts. Meanwhile Escape sales are down despite having used huge discounts and fleet sales.

#6968 of 8533 Re: Funny... [sockpuppet1969] by varmint

Dec 03, 2005 (11:16 am)

Replying to: sockpuppet1969 (Dec 02, 2005 6:59 pm)
My honest opinion of the Escape and Tribute is well documented, already.
 
varmint, "The Forums Test Drive Team" #54, 3 Aug 2003 9:00 pm
 
What transpires here is another matter entirely. Without naming names, there are participants here who simply attack, attack, and attack leaving little room for civil discussion. This thread is what it is... trash talk.
 
If you've got a serious question, ask it in a serious manner. We'll answer it.

#6969 of 8533 I think ... by tidester

Dec 03, 2005 (12:28 pm)

... we'd all be better off with a little less confrontation and provocation.
 
tidester, host

#6970 of 8533 Re: I think ... [tidester] by minuvera

Dec 04, 2005 (10:07 am)

Replying to: tidester (Dec 03, 2005 12:28 pm)
I purchased my 01 escape at the beginning of the year. It is the XLS with 2X4 and a V6. When I was shopping, my original purchase plan was to stay away from ford and buy a CR-V. The first thing I test drove was a RAV4 and a couple of 02 and 03 CR-Vs. I didn't really care for the pickup they offered. The small engines made a fair amount of background noise during acceleration and higher speeds, above 45 to 50MPH. They have a slightly better fuel efficiency. The only comparable escape is the 4 cylinder model in performance. One of the CRVs I test drove, an 01, had a shaking problem. When I test drove over 16 vehicles, I drove about 5 CRVs, 2 RAV4, 5 Escapes, a XL-7, a Pathfinder, a jeep Liberty, and a jeep grand cherokee. The escape V6 literally threw me back when I stepped on the accelerator. My uncle, who went with me to look at all of these vehicles, agreed with me. The high performance V6, one of the fastest 0-60 small suvs, had a better performance than many of the V8 vehicles we had tested, and own. The escapes performance is sturdy and fun to drive. It reminds me of a sports car. I have the automatic 4 speed transition. The CRV wins in fuel efficiency, but the escapes engineering and performance are a step above in my opinion. If I was going to make the choice again, the escape is a better choice. I read about many recalls on the escape, some new. I have had no recalls on my vehicle in the time I have owned it. It has been a very dependable vehicle. It has never stalled or had to go into the shop for anything but an oil change. I do agree that the CRV is a good vehicle, but when it comes to performance the Escape is a smoother ride, better acceleration, and better towing capacity. I do like some of the options in the interior of the CRV, but the escape has alot of these options available in their limited edition and XLT.

#6971 of 8533 Re: 0-60 closer to 9 & 10 sec for CR-V & Scape [varmint] by thegraduate

Dec 04, 2005 (4:38 pm)

Replying to: varmint (Dec 02, 2005 6:29 pm)
So, as you can see, the lowest gears on the early models were actually slightly more aggressive than the new ones. The real changes are in the top 3 gears to make the CR-V both smoother shifting and more fuel efficient.
 
if the final drive ratio is the same, I stand corrected, but with two different transmissions, the final drive is likely to change. Any word?
 
The 02 and 03 Accord are completely different cars with different engines as well as transmissions.
 
Yes, i kinda figured that was understood. The engine has a similar horsepower peak (5800 rpm), and only slightly more power (enough to offset the weight), making the extra cog in the transmission the obvious "secret weapon" to the extra speed. In fact, in 2003, Motor Trend called the Accord's five-speed auto its secret weapon to it's uncommonly quick acceleration. So, i repost to you, the inquisitive car icon
 
thanks!
 
thegrad

#6972 of 8533 Escapes? Rentals? by thegraduate

Dec 04, 2005 (4:40 pm)

Replying to: sockpuppet1969 (Dec 02, 2005 6:59 pm)
I actually rented one 2 years ago
 
Wow, what are the odds of someone renting an Escape? Wait...very good odds actually, helping bolster Escape sales beyond personal sales (making sales seem better than they really are in the personal purchsing market)and lowering resale values for owners one Hertz at a time.

#6973 of 8533 Re: Funny... [varmint] by thegraduate

Dec 04, 2005 (4:44 pm)

Replying to: varmint (Dec 03, 2005 11:16 am)
My honest opinion of the Escape and Tribute is well documented, already.
 
I guess that makes my opinion of the Escape well discounted then? Wait, no, that's the Ford lineup... never mind.

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