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What is this discussion about? Honda CR-V, Ford Escape, Car Safety, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), SUV

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#6861 of 8533 Re: Escape Upgrades [blueiedgod] by varmint

Nov 19, 2005 (10:39 am)

Replying to: blueiedgod (Nov 19, 2005 6:08 am)
"honda raised their prices by $500 last Marc to help GM and Ford out of the financial hole. It was just a nice gesture from Honda and Toyota. Even though the prices were raised $500 across the line, the sales are strong. Can't say that about the domestics."
 
Are you sure about that? Toyota had announced that they might raise prices as one possible way to help out GM (they have common interests with GM). And because they wanted to avoid a backlash of anti-japan sentiment.
 
However, Takeo Fukui's (Honda's CEO) reaction to Toyota's announcement was more or less disbelief. He thought the Toyota guy was nuts.
 
I never read anything suggesting that Honda had matched what Toyota said they *might* do.
 
Now, the price of an EX with an automatic transmission went up a full $1,000 from 2004 to 2005. That's when they added the 5AT, upgraded AWD, VSA, curtain airbags, and the other MMC changes. So the price hike is understandable. But, even without big changes, the price always jump a bit. It went up $100 in 2003 and $100 in 2004. It jumped another $250 from 2005 to 2006. And the destination charge jumped about $100 somewhere in there, too.

#6862 of 8533 Re: Can any Ford do that? [blueiedgod] by stevedebi

Nov 19, 2005 (2:56 pm)

Replying to: blueiedgod (Nov 19, 2005 6:16 am)
"Can any Ford, even the biggest Excursion do that? "
 
Huh? The CR-V cannot do that either; this is an Element, as I'm sure you know. Not sure what it has to do with this Forum.
 
I liked the Element, but it's low maximum cargo weight (685 lbs) killed the idea for me.

#6863 of 8533 Re: No it doesn't [dromedarius] by explorerx4

Nov 20, 2005 (6:04 pm)

Replying to: dromedarius (Nov 19, 2005 7:52 am)
my point is that you can get the msrp of a cr-v or escape to over 29k. kind of seems our of line to me.
went to the local auto show today.
the cr-v has a large cargo area behind the rear seats, but the rear access door is huge too.
inside they, weren't a whole lot different. i did get taken off guard by the emergency brake handle. at first i thought it was a grab bar, but couldn't figure why it would need one there. when it grabbed it, it moved, i thought i broke something, but i chuckled when i remembered reading about it.
there were some cheap pieces on the cr-v. the drivers window was down and when i grabbed the door where the window trim meets it, there was a lot a flex. the award for the cheapest piece i found for any vehicle was for the outside hood release. the alloy wheels looked like plastic wheel covers.
there was only 1 escape, a base hybrid model. it seemed cheap compared to our escape limited. the floor shift didn't seem any better or worse than the column shift. the mariner had a better interior than our limited.

#6864 of 8533 Honda by dromedarius

Nov 20, 2005 (6:51 pm)

Generally, Honda has a reason for what they do. The reason the door swings out the way it does is because they drive on the other side of the road in Japan (and the UK), major market(s) for the CR-V. I'm not sure why they chose a side-swinging door vs. top-hinged door, but I'm sure they had a good reason for that as well.
 
One feature I've really grown to like about the CR-V is column-mounted shifter. With a baby in the family now, my wife has had to go to the back seat on more than one occasion, and the absence of a floor-mounted shifter makes that a relatively easy task.
 
I really didn't have any beefs with the Escape interior, except it was smaller than the CR-Vs. Not by much, but my 100 lb. dog's kennel fits easily within the rear of the CR-V with the back seats upright and back, and it was a tight fit in the Escape. (I did hate the Tribute's interior, which had a bunch of crappy faux materials.)
 
The one feature I liked on the Escape was the fold flat rear seats, but Honda musta had a reason for not doing that, since the CR-V still has more cargo space with the back seats forward than the Escape does with its seats folded forward and down.

#6865 of 8533 Re: Escape Upgrades [explorerx4] by sockpuppet1969

Nov 21, 2005 (6:03 am)

Replying to: explorerx4 (Nov 18, 2005 3:58 pm)
a loaded cr-v lists for about 29k, same as a loaded escape limited. i wonder how many are willing to pay 29K msrp for a loaded cr-v?
 
I have been following this forum for a little while (since purchasing my CR-V 3 weeks ago). I have to say, I never even considered an Escape, the main reasons being fuel economy and reliability. I'm not sure what you mean by "fully loaded" when referring to the CR-V as they do not come with any factory options. I have a 2006 CR-V SE, for which I payed $25,2 OTD ($23,9 +++). This included mud flaps, wheel locks and the rear cargo protector. MSRP is $26K including delivery charge.
 
Where did you get your $29K figure from?

#6866 of 8533 Re: Escape Upgrades [blueiedgod] by baggs32

Nov 21, 2005 (10:40 am)

Replying to: blueiedgod (Nov 19, 2005 6:09 am)
Check out CR-V again, it has optional tow and back up sensors as well. NEXT.
 
Both of those are dealer installed options which command an installation fee as well. Ford offers both from the factory on the Escape.

#6867 of 8533 Re: Honda [dromedarius] by baggs32

Nov 21, 2005 (10:43 am)

Replying to: dromedarius (Nov 20, 2005 6:51 pm)
I'm not sure why they chose a side-swinging door vs. top-hinged door, but I'm sure they had a good reason for that as well.
 
It saved them lots and lots of $$$$$$ to not have to change it.

#6868 of 8533 Re: Escape Upgrades [sockpuppet1969] by varmint

Nov 21, 2005 (10:43 am)

Replying to: sockpuppet1969 (Nov 21, 2005 6:03 am)
He included a bunch of dealer accessories. (The CR-V he "built" would have included 10 alloy rims, for example.) These are not factory options, so they are not part of the MSRP. But since his point was that these vehicles can be maxxed out at very high prices, he included them.

#6869 of 8533 Re: Honda [baggs32] by varmint

Nov 21, 2005 (10:50 am)

Replying to: baggs32 (Nov 21, 2005 10:43 am)
Not quite. A top hinged door would have prevented them from storing the spare on the back. They could have stuck a cheap donut under the cargo area, but figured the full-size spare and easy access was more important than having a "lift gate".
 
One of the chuckles I get from the "towing and hauling" argument is the fact that the Escape uses a donut. Sure, you can tow 3,000 lbs... until you get a flat. You can't tow anything using a donut.
 
I suppose the owner of a $29K CR-V would loan you one of his 5 extras...

#6870 of 8533 Re: Honda [varmint] by baggs32

Nov 21, 2005 (2:27 pm)

Replying to: varmint (Nov 21, 2005 10:50 am)
Varm,
Mine has a full size spare. It's an option on the '05s (don't know about MY06 yet) but our Limited came with it standard. However, most Escapes on the road right now do have just a donut.
 
To add more, it rains a lot here and having the "lift gate" to stand under when loading the weekly groceries into the cargo bay is very nice. My sister-in-law complains of getting soaked while trying to load her CR-V in the rain. In fact, she's the one who brought it up and I hadn't even thought about it before then.
 
I suppose the owner of a $29K CR-V would loan you one of his 5 extras...
 
Wouldn't want 'em. The bolts are probably rotated the wrong way or screw on backwards like the motor or hatch.

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