CR-V vs Escape

8533 messages,  Last post on Nov 22, 2011 at 3:06 PM

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What is this discussion about? Honda CR-V, Ford Escape, Car Safety, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), SUV

#6823 of 8533 Re: V6 vs I4 [explorerx4] by blueiedgod

Nov 16, 2005 (10:55 am)

Replying to: explorerx4 (Nov 15, 2005 5:17 pm)
ok, i'm wrong. honda still hasn't caught up, yet.
look at it this way, what changes to they make to the civic, since last introduced? they didn't have to because it sold well the way it was. the cr-v has had several upgrades(powertrain and features). this was to try to reach the escape 'line in the sand'.

 
Ford is still playing catch up. The Civic you are referring to went through a model change. Intrduced as a 2001, it has outlived its usefull life. Ford Focus on the other hand, was introduced in 1999?? Why do we still have the same old Focus? Not the Euro Focus? Does Ford think that its customers are stupid? I think Ford does think that. Do you?

#6824 of 8533 Escape Upgrades by varmint

Nov 16, 2005 (11:12 am)

"the cr-v has had several upgrades(powertrain and features). this was to try to reach the escape 'line in the sand'."
 
The Escape has had plenty of upgrades. First the incentives were only $500. Then they upgraded them to $1,500. Then they upgraded those incentives to $2,000. Then they started offering them at employee prices.
 
That's how Ford upgrades a vehicle.

#6825 of 8533 Re: Escape Upgrades [varmint] by explorerx4

Nov 16, 2005 (4:08 pm)

Replying to: varmint (Nov 16, 2005 11:12 am)
first off, i want to say that some models of the escape are not what i would term a bargain.
check out the msrp on an escape and you will understand how they can provide generous incentives.
i'm pretty good at math, so if anyone needs some help let me know.

#6826 of 8533 Re: V6 vs I4 [blueiedgod] by explorerx4

Nov 16, 2005 (4:30 pm)

Replying to: blueiedgod (Nov 16, 2005 10:55 am)
honda does have fine entry level vehicles. while we were looking for my wife's next vehicle, which turned out to be an escape, i decided i wanted to buy a small car. the finalists were a civic vp 2 door and a focus 4 door. for $350 more i got a focus with ton of features (power moonroof, heated seats and mirrors, abs, pzev engine, the list goes on and on) and a fine driving car. color me stupid.

#6827 of 8533 Re: V6 vs I4 [explorerx4] by stevedebi

Nov 16, 2005 (5:30 pm)

Replying to: explorerx4 (Nov 16, 2005 4:30 pm)
"honda does have fine entry level vehicles. while we were looking for my wife's next vehicle, which turned out to be an escape, i decided i wanted to buy a small car. the finalists were a civic vp 2 door and a focus 4 door. for $350 more i got a focus with ton of features (power moonroof, heated seats and mirrors, abs, pzev engine, the list goes on and on) and a fine driving car."
 
You planning on keeping that Focus for more that 4 years?

#6828 of 8533 Re: V6 vs I4 [stevedebi] by explorerx4

Nov 16, 2005 (5:52 pm)

Replying to: stevedebi (Nov 16, 2005 5:30 pm)
i also have a 15 year old mustang gt convertible. my kids are getting to the point where they will be able to drive it. it can still get 20 mpg despite never having had a tuneup. maybe my kids can do that in a few years.
the focus does have a 5 year 100k powertrain warranty. not that i expect any problem with it, it is a 'dura.
one of the kids has already claimed the escape as their ride. that isn't for another 3+ years.

#6829 of 8533 Re: Escape Upgrades [explorerx4] by varmint

Nov 16, 2005 (7:40 pm)

Replying to: explorerx4 (Nov 16, 2005 4:08 pm)
Except that the incentives and employee pricing have applied to all models, not just the loaded ones. Even the "bargain" model are discounted.
 
And nobody pays MSRP for a Ford. The market has determined they aren't worth it.

#6830 of 8533 Somebody has to post it... by varmint

Nov 17, 2005 (11:41 am)

http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0511/17/01-385510.htm

#6831 of 8533 ...and more by drive62

Nov 17, 2005 (12:30 pm)

Mostly sedans but I guess the Freestyle is an SUV of sorts.
Close to a half million vehicles in two days. And add that to the 4 million recalled in September. I guess Ford owners will be waiting in line at the dealerships.
 
I wonder if someone thinks a battery cable rubbing against a bolt and causing a fire is a design issue? Nah. Must be because the bolt was rotated 180 degrees.
 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051116/wl_canada_nm/canada_autos_ford_recall_ca_col_1

#6832 of 8533 Re: Escape Upgrades [varmint] by explorerx4

Nov 17, 2005 (8:08 pm)

Replying to: varmint (Nov 16, 2005 7:40 pm)
my point is, the msrp has risen more than the rebates. not only that, the invoice on many vehicles has taken a jump, although the msrp has not. i do my homework.
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