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Honda CR-V, Ford Escape, Car Safety, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), SUV
#6034 of 8533 My CRV v Escape comparison
Mar 16, 2005 (11:05 am)
Just thought I'd weigh in with my $.02 on the CR-V vs. Escape debate.
Me: engineer currently driving 1997 Mazda B2300 SE pickup 83K miles. Wife: law student with 1999 Honda Civic 4dr LX with 89K miles.
The Civic has needed only routine maintenance. Mazda has been solid, powertrain wise, but needed a new water pump at 75K and has had several wiring glitches.
We're thinking we'll unload both vehicles and consolidate to a single, new, reliable ride, as both her school and my work are within 3 miles of our house. No highway driving necessary.
Splitting the difference between a Civic and a compact truck is easy - get a small ute. Space for passengers, dog, home improvement stuff. Cheaper than a crew cab or full SUV, and easier to park in the city.
Our priorities are:
- all at the best price we can get.
Our top five picks are:
Given our preferences, the CR-V is the front runner. I was a little surprised at this, however, given the popularity of the Escape.
The Escape looks bigger than the EPA cargo volume numbers suggest. But the CR-V wins in that category.
Ford/Mazda seem decent with regard to reliability, but my research, and personal experience, suggests the edge goes to Honda.
The side/curtain airbags being standard on the CR-V is a plus. Looking at option packages and Edmund's TMV, it seems impossible to get the same level of protection on the Escape/Tribute/Mariner as the CR-V without paying noticably more, at least without incentives. The tip-up for the Escape family, and the engine fires on the CR-V, both give me a little pause, but seem to be tolerable risks, overall.
Fuel economy is comparable for the 4 cyl options we're considering. Too bad the Escape Hybrid isn't cheaper.
Comfort/convenience: Slight edge to CR-V. I prefer the CR-V's placement of the gear selector, parking brake, speedo/tach, audio controls, and driver armrest. Driver cup holders are awkward in both. Storage nooks seemed short in Escape, but they did provide more privacy. Escape had better power doorlock/window and climate control placement.
I give it to the CR-V, overall. I can see how my preference would change to the Escape if we needed a more powerful vehicle. As for the CR-V comparison to the Forrester, RAV4, and Santa Fe, I guess those are other forums.
By the way, I don't have a dog in this fight, as it seems a few folks posting here do. I feel no loyalty to any manufacturer: I am always looking for the best vehicle for my needs, and am happy to buy from anyone.
#6035 of 8533 Re: My CRV v Escape comparison [bigeaux]
Mar 16, 2005 (11:21 am)
Good luck with whatever one you choose. They're all fine vehicles. Just make sure you read each vehicle's "problems and solutions" forum to see what other problems people are experiencing.
#6036 of 8533 Re: My CRV v Escape comparison [bigeaux]
Mar 16, 2005 (1:24 pm)
Both are really good cars. The real difference is that the Escape has a higher towing rating, and a V6 engine, but if you are going for the 4 cyl engine, the CR-V is the winner.
Unless you prefer the Escape; they drive and ride very differently. Be sure and check out the cargo space with the rear seats slid all the way forward (both Escape and CR-V have this feature).
#6037 of 8533 Re: My CRV v Escape comparison [stevedebi]
Mar 21, 2005 (11:54 am)
Had fun test driving both recently. CR-V came out ahead. Both were 4 cylinders. The Escape was comfy enough, but the tranny was sluggish. The CR-V drive was fine, but kinda vanilla. Found the Forrester to be more responsive than both. Figures, as it's more car-like.
As for rear space with the seats folded, it was hard to tell which is better. The CR-V is bigger per EPA cargo volume calculations, but it's hard to see the difference with the old Mk. I Eyeball Mod 0.
One way to decide it: take an Escape on a test drive to a Honda dealership and park it next to a CR-V. Has anyone on this board done this (or something like it)? Check them out side by side. Introduce the salesmen. I'm sure hilarity will ensue.
Not having driven the Escape V6, I can't speak intelligently about it. The Santa Fe V6 didn't have as much gitty-up as I had hoped. Not needing to tow anything on a regular basis, I'm thinking that the MPG hit isn't worth it.
#6038 of 8533 Side by Side
Mar 21, 2005 (2:33 pm)
Yep. Back in 2002, I went with a friend to look at the Escape. She drove me in her CR-V, so we were able to do the parked comparo.
#6039 of 8533 Re: My CRV v Escape comparison [bigeaux]
Mar 22, 2005 (10:31 am)
OT. Check out the Tuscon. It can be had with the same V6 as the (current) Santa Fe. I'm sure in the Tuscon it will be more responsive. Back to Topic. But I think the CR-V is more than adequate.
#6040 of 8533 Side by Side
Mar 26, 2005 (12:10 pm)
Me too! I have compared an 01 CRV vs the 01 Escape when introduced.. along with being able to compare an 04 Tribue with an 04 CRV... I now own an 01 XLT v6 4WD Escape and an 04 Tribute ES V6 4WD..
Apr 08, 2005 (9:00 am)
An interesting article from Auto Week:
>>> A study by J.D. Power and Associates measured owner satisfaction last year with new vehicles' design, content and performance. Honda finished 21st among automakers, down from 15th in 2003.
>>> Loyalty - measured by the percentage of Honda owners who stick with the brand when they buy new vehicles - fell to 55.2 percent last year. The loyalty rate was 57.1 percent in 2003, another Power study found.
>>> The brand ranked below the industry average last year and in 2003 for owner satisfaction with the new-vehicle purchase experience at its dealerships.
>>> The median age of Honda owners rose to 45 in 2004 from 43 a year earlier, according to the Strategic Vision auto consulting firm in Tustin, Calif.
Apr 08, 2005 (9:26 am)
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