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Honda CR-V, Ford Escape, Car Safety, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), SUV
#5049 of 8533 It amazes me
Jul 02, 2004 (3:03 pm)
How the CRV can have recalls after recalls and still win the reliability awards???
Drive ... still waiting for the dealership and phone number... remember?? you bought a CRV EX for $20,500... And everyone is buying them for this price?? Remember?? Starting to look a little suspicious in your claim.
Here we go again about how unreliable Fords are and how they all breakdown.. come on people, this is getting really old. In 1998 I bought a Ford Ranger and was told over and over and over again how this truck was going to breakdown, fail blah, blah, blah... It went over 100,000 with not one problem. Once again.. I purhase a Ford Escape.. I hear the same old Honda beating drum.. its going to fail, its going to break down, its going to spend more time in the shop.. I have over 40,000 trouble free miles on my Escape..
Get out on the net there are plenty of peeved off Honda owners out here in other chat rooms..
Yes, I saw the Article in the Motor Trend aobut the 05 Escape coming in last. However, they used a Equinox, a Saturn Red Line and a top of the Line Santa Fe! Why not a Limmited Escape? I believe the Equionox would have won anyway because its new.. The Escape beats the Santa Fe hands down for styling and road manners. They didn't say anything bad either about the Escape bad they way.. I question how Motor Trend can get a 0-60 of 8.5 when the Escape was first introduced and have it get slower at 10.1???
#5050 of 8533 Re: Bottom Line CRV vs. Escape [lsearch #5031]
Jul 03, 2004 (6:28 pm)
You are misleading. The Escape gets a 5 star crashtest rating in every category but one. It is the side passenger that gets a 4 star. If Honda is so great at crash test ratings and making sure its customers are safe.. then why does the Element have such poor ratings???
#5051 of 8533 Numbers are in once again..
Jul 03, 2004 (6:42 pm)
Here are some numbers from todays advertisments in the paper for CRV prices vs Escape prices.
Here is an 04 Escape 4x4 "Northwest package" for $18,975. Options are as follows...
Premium leather seating, Heated seats, power locks, Keyless entry, 4spd auto trans, 15" aluminum wheels, Full power options, V6.. "Too many options to list".. 6 at this price. Another dealership: Advertising 50 Escape Limited 4x4 for $5000 off MSRP!, Another dealership offering XLS Escapes from $16,888 up to $18788, XLT's from $20,480 to $21,388, Limited Escapes are $24,988.. I can go on and on here folks.
There are now 2 dealerships offering a LEASE on a CRV LX for $249 a month. This is a Lease not a buy. At the end of a lease you get nothing. Either buy the car for what they feel its worth or you walk away empty handed. The lease on the CRV is for 3 years. In small print it says you there is a $585 aquisition fee, $1,899 cash down, plus licence, title and a $250 refundable security deposit. So, you need $2,616 just to get into this CRV!! MSRP for a CRV LX at BOTH dealerships is $20,690. CRV's do cost more than Escapes...I have proven this over and over until I am blue in the keyboard....
#5052 of 8533 Re: It amazes me [scape2 #5049]
Jul 04, 2004 (4:10 pm)
> Yes, I saw the Article in the Motor Trend aobut the 05 Escape coming in last. However, they used a Equinox, a Saturn Red Line and a top of the Line Santa Fe!
Actually, that is incorrect. The Motor Trend comparo used a mid-level Santa Fe GLS with the 3.5 liter V6. The top of the line Santa Fe is the LX.
> Why not a Limmited Escape?
What difference would that really make? The Escape would have gained some points for extra features, but would lose points for being more expensive. For the most part, all the mechanicals essentially remain the same between the Escape they tested and the Limited version.
Besides, if you really want the most bang for the buck, the Santa Fe is the real winner in this comparo. Even Motor Trend acknowledges this fact.
Jul 05, 2004 (8:15 pm)
Yes, I will pay the extra to have more style.. The Santa Fe is one of the uglyiest SUV's... right next to the uglyment.. I mean Element...
Jul 06, 2004 (5:16 am)
Why do you bring up recalls when we're talking about price? Any chance to get a dig in, seems to me.
Something is wrong with what you posted. 15" wheels with a V6? Not possible. So please get the story straight and repost.
$20500 (or lower) for an '04 CR-V EX with automatic transmission. Includes: alloy wheels, keyless entry, 6 disc in dash CD changer (na on the 4 cyl Escape), moonroof (na on the 4 cyl Escape), 4 wheel disc brakes (na on the 4 cyl Escape) with ABS and many other creature comforts.
Stop saying this price is not valid. IT IS.
#5056 of 8533 CR-V's are RED HOT!!!!
Jul 09, 2004 (11:51 am)
I actually had a rubber O-ring stick to the filter inlet on our old Civic. Oil sprayed everywhere and I had to drift to a nearby gas station to fix it and refill the oil. That was a bad day.
To make things worse the morons in the garage decided to make me the butt of their jokes too. I had the last laugh though after having to tell them to put the cap back on the oil fill hole before starting the engine to test the filter out. Jerks.
Oh, and I wouldn't take a CR-V to an independent lube shop if I were any of you. Do you really think they'll pay any attention to the letter Honda sends to them regarding the fires?
Jul 10, 2004 (3:38 am)
Someone posted this on another forum. It pertains to the info from the link in post# 5056:
And the rocket's red glare the honda's bursting in air gave proof thru the night that the ESCAPES are all right............
I thought it was pretty funny and thought I'd share it with all of you.