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You are in the Honda CR-V
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Honda CR-V, Ford Escape, Car Safety, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), SUV
Sep 07, 2002 (10:03 am)
I can only speak to my experience with my 02 EX 5 sp. but I find the CRV just zips along Route 250 out of Staunton and on into WV on my way up to Snowshoe. That is 97 miles along a two lane roads and over 5-7 different mountains, depending on your definention of mtns, and end up at 4800 foot top of Snowshoe. I usually have my 2 children, wife and gear(winter skis etc.-summer bikes etc.)with me and there is never any problem with power. I use the gears and usually am around 3000-4000 rpm and if you need to pass that logging truck, local on there Sunday drive or out of towners not familiar with the roads just step on the gas let the VTEC kick in (4200rpm for my V) and wave bye-bye. If I am by myself CD going, windows and sunroof down, fresh crisp air and a few rays filtering through the forest canopy then just get into the rhythm of the curves and the miles fly by.
Cars can really be enjoyed and I do with mine and hope all on this board do also. I happen to find Honda drive-trains superior to other makes and that is why I have my CRV. I have not driven the Escape V6 except on test drives but I did own a 1998 Duratec V6 ( 200 hp-200 ft-lbs with dual exhaust Taurus Wagon for 6 months) and it was hard for the transmission to ever be in the right gear at the right time going through the hills. I know the escape is a different vehicle but I think the powertrain (motor transmission combo) is close to the same. I then went to my CRV and it sure is nice to have the 5 spd. I think Ford is making a mistake not offering a 5 spd. option on the Escape with the V6. The 4 cylinder is joke and you cannot get 4-wheel drive with it.
Just my thoughts and I hope everyone goes out and enjoys there trucks.
#2171 of 8533 Scape2...look at the peak torque...
Sep 07, 2002 (11:31 am)
BTW, 22 lbs. increase is nothing! What are you talking about?! The increase in power from 1st gen to 2nd gen is VERY significant...just look at the 0-60 times! I believe there is about 1 second or more difference! Anyhow, the 2nd gen torque curve is flatter with much more low-end power.
Look at the PAYLOAD differences! ONLY 50 lbs separate the Escape and CRV! Strange isn't it??
Sep 07, 2002 (11:32 am)
What exactly are the payload numbers for the Escape? Scape2 never answers that question.
#2173 of 8533 Payload ratings...
Sep 07, 2002 (12:40 pm)
For Escape is 900 lbs.
For CRV is 850 lbs.
So much for the V6 advantage!
Sep 07, 2002 (4:31 pm)
5 speed or not......40/40 hp,tourque should beat it BUT it didn't. Stop trying to find escuses. I agree by saying it is NOT as powerful as your SUPERSCAPE but it is soooo close it hurts doesn't it? Even the auto is only a little over 1/2 sec. off so keep trying!
Sep 07, 2002 (7:10 pm)
Intmed - Those are the numbers from CR, correct? I've read that, depending on trim level, the CR-V will haul from 970 to 1,120 lbs including passengers and cargo. This appears to be the manufacturers specs. (Does someone have an owner's manual to confirm?) I haven't found Ford's numbers for comparison.
#2176 of 8533 Varmint...yup, from CR...n/t
Sep 08, 2002 (11:28 am)
#2177 of 8533 Just don't get it
Sep 08, 2002 (12:49 pm)
the relationship between HP and torque. Sure the CRV can carry the load.. But how WELL does it carry the load?? Its obvious the Escape will carry it better and more confidently than the CRV. The 40HP and 40 ft/lbs of torque advantage has already been discussed over and over again.
Yep, my "Superscape" is damn super! I love it! it is reliable, quick, functional, comfortable, and stylish. Waxed it again yesterday and boy does it looooook GOOOOOOOOD!
Intmed.. Significant?? Nope, obviously you didn't read the differences in HP and Torque between the 01 and 02 CRV. And once again.. I will keep saying this over and over and over and over and over again... YOu have to rev the hell out of the 2.4 in order to achieve these numbers.. I DID IT, I KNOW. YOU have to rev the 2.4 up to 6,000 RPMS, drop the clutch/hold rpms.. GET IT?? in order to achieve these numbers..
Sep 08, 2002 (1:29 pm)
The improvement from the 1st gen to the 2nd generation crv is not only the max HP and torque. The peak is better distributed as well. Are you an engineer?
BTW, you indicated that you drove the 2002 CRV over mountains and you said the automatic couldn't decide which gear it was in, you said it kept searching for the right gear. This is flawed for two reasons....
1. The CRV has a grade logic, it doesn't search
2. You just wrote in the above post that you had to rev the heck out of the CRV to feel the power. I didn't know you can rev the automatic, you wanna tell me how?
Also, answer these points, you tend to ignore everything I say whenever you can't defend yourself.
Sep 08, 2002 (4:02 pm)
Yep scape.......hope your SUPERSCAPE is more reliable than the one in Automobile magazine!
Ahhhhhh scape, Honda engines are made to rev and it is fun to do it without it exploding! Even while you are winding them, they remain very smooth. I would love to hear the ruckuss (?) from the Ford 4 at that RPM!!! LOL!
I have to agree with dave, I have an auto and it does not rev like you say it does....did you not say that gearing had something to do with it? Use those engineering skills dude! Even though you have all this "Extra" power, my auto is only a little over a second slower and at 40hp/tourque that should not occur according to you! Please don't go back to the towing, hauling thing again as we all know that a 6 will outdo a 4 there! Honda uses the term "efficiency" to the max!
Yes you ignore topics a lot so lets hear some answers!