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CR-V vs Escape
8533 messages, Last post on Nov 22, 2011 at 3:06 PM
You are in the Honda CR-V Forum.What is this discussion about? Honda CR-V, Ford Escape, Car Safety, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), SUV
#1350 of 8533 by baggs32
Jul 25, 2002 (6:10 am)
hondaman,Your feelings about how your older CR-V compares to the Escape are noted. But, as all you Honda people like to say so much, the numbers don't lie.
How is it that you think the Escape was designed (several years ago) to compete with the 2002 CR-V? Which, by the way, was not seen or heard of until over a year after Ford released the Escape. Are they somehow going to design the 2004 Taurus to compete with the 2007 Accord instead of the 2003 too?
#1351 of 8533 by varmint
Jul 25, 2002 (9:00 am)
Clearly, the Escape was not developed to compete with the 2002 CR-V. I'm sure the 1996 CR-V was only one of many benchmarks that Mazda used in the Tribscape's development.However, it is expected that the Tribscape was designed to be better than the old CR-V. Crash safety is one area where they failed. As a result, the 2002 CR-V has effectively leap-frogged the Tribscape by a whole model generation.
#1352 of 8533 My two cents by bascott
Jul 25, 2002 (9:44 am)
The CRV and Escape are close, that is why when I was looking it came down to the two of them. In the end I bought the CRV. Obviously the 6 is faster than the 4 at a cost of gas milage. I have never had any power issues with my CRV uphill with a full load or otherwise. In the end it came down to Honda quality and resale value.#1353 of 8533 Small things by corynat
Jul 25, 2002 (10:05 am)
0-60 is pretty pointless. Getting into traffic. Turning left across lanes. Passing. Those are things that happen everyday. Having owned both, the Escape does those things better than the Honda (2000 CR-V is my only point of ref.) No contest.Looks - Subjective
Reliability - Until proven wrong - Honda
Fit and Finish - Equal (surprisingly)
Resale - Honda, hands down. Hardly had to argue price for trade-in.
Of course, this is ongoing. Had three problems with the CR-V in two years, all minor. Waiting to see with the Escape.
#1354 of 8533 re: small things by muckyduck
Jul 25, 2002 (11:26 am)
The 2002 CR-V has no problems "turning left across lanes, passing, getting into traffic". There is a contest and the Escape is really not much better than the CR-V even with a bigger engine.Looks - agree are subjective - I think the Tribute is better looking than the Escape.
Reliability - agree Honda wins.
Fit and Finish - some 'expert' reviews have rated the Escape/Tribute poorly in this area. Have not found any reviews knocking the CR-V fit and finish.
Resale - agree Honda wins.
#1355 of 8533 by baggs32
Jul 25, 2002 (12:48 pm)
"Crash safety is one area where they failed."
varmint,
At least they didn't score lower in the IIHS and NHTSA tests.
I took another look at the IIHS pictures http://www.iihs.org/vehicle_ratings/ce/html/photo_comp_smsuv.htm after reading Road and Track's online review of the 2002 CR-V. They tell us that Honda added some extra under-floor bracing to the 2002. When you look at the crash picture of the CR-V, it does not seem to have a bend in the roof like the Escape does and the back end seems higher off the ground.
I'm wondering if that might be a large part of what caused the big difference in the test? Could be a pretty simple fix for Ford if it is.
#1356 of 8533 Fit and finish by tomsr
Jul 25, 2002 (10:26 pm)
Details, it's in the details.I could have hadeither loaded for the same price.My son works for
FORD and took me to a backlot where I could look at bunches of Escapes.The thing that sticks in my
mind is the carpet in the cargo area.It was not trimmed, just cut. A day long drive found it
lacking in low end torque,thirsty,noisy,and rough riding.In the end I had to ask myself,why is there
so many unsold Escapes,but so few unsold CRVs?
So I went with the crowd.
#1357 of 8533 by diploid
Jul 25, 2002 (10:58 pm)
I think the reason there are so many unsold Escapes is not because people don't buy them (cause they do), but because I'm sure Ford makes much more Escapes than Honda can make CR-V's, but the same number of buyers buy both SUVs.But you're right, considering how very close these 2 SUVs are in basically every area, you just gotta nitpick at the details.
#1358 of 8533 by baggs32
Jul 26, 2002 (5:43 am)
tomsr,I believe the cargo carpet was trimmed and sewn in the 2001's. I guess they got a better deal on the untrimmed/unsewn carpet for the 2002 MY. The carpet edges tuck away underneath the surrounding moldings, so I didn't give it a second thought because I never see them any more.
I always thought the standard floor mats were a little cheap and off-color. I just might have to shell out the extra dollars for the fancy Escape logo mats.
diploid,
I think you hit the nail on the head.
#1359 of 8533 Fit and Finish by corynat
Jul 26, 2002 (6:26 am)
I expected the Honda to be better in fit and finish as well, but was surprised to find it was not. Of course, that is only with my experience.Loaded is a subjective term as well. There are options available on the Ford that are not available on the Honda. Leather, being an obvious one.
Duck - Like I said, I can only compare to the 2000 CR-V. Against the 2000, there is no contest. That being said, the low end grunt the Escape has would be tough to match. I have no doubt that the Honda makes up for the initial lag by the time you reach 60, but from what I have read in previous posts, the Escape gets a lead early on and that would support what I am saying. I was always able to do those things in my CR-V, but I feel much more confident doing them in the Escape.
One thing I am curious about with the the new CR-V is the AC. I always thought the AC could be improved. Did Honda address that?
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