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You are in the Subaru Baja
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Subaru Baja, Truck
Nov 08, 2002 (1:32 pm)
That pace is a lot slower than the Aztek. Ouch. Though Pontiac has about 1 billion dealers. It's about as many Axioms as Isuzu was selling.
They had better reconfigure it quickly, maybe even make it a mid-year change, a 2003.5 model.
Adding the H6 and the stuff you want might help a little, if the price doesn't get too out of hand, but I really believe a lesser equipped model would sell more briskly.
Plus, Subaru isn't going to invest any more if doesn't think the Baja will succeed. So do the "Value" model first, with:
* 16" steel wheels from the Forester X
* drop the leather
* drop the heated seats + LSD, or make it a separate $400 AWP
* drop the cladding, make it look like Outback
Then knock $2 grand off the MSRP at least.
#770 of 2213 It doesn't have heated seats
Nov 08, 2002 (1:40 pm)
But I do agree about the cladding. If the Baja had the same cladding that the Outback has (maybe in silver to differentiate the two), it would look 100% better than it does now. And, yeah, a high-value/bottom-feeder model should be included too.
#771 of 2213 Interesting to note...
Nov 08, 2002 (1:48 pm)
that when Subaru does well in terms of sales, SOA promotes it on the first page of their media site. When they do poorly, like this month (down 3%), you have to search* the site for the sales news.
* = it's under "releases."
Nov 08, 2002 (1:56 pm)
I think their lineup has improved, it's just that there is far more AWD competition now.
In one way or another, each Subie competes with these newly available AWD models:
OBS: Matrix, Vibe, Aerio
Forester: Outlander, Vue
Outback: Rendezvous, Jag X Type, V70 AWD
Baja is all new but it has to compete with Element for the attention of Gen Y.
And if you look at how many new wagons are offered, the list gets longer. Subaru had the AWD wagon market almost to itself, not so any more.
Nov 08, 2002 (2:06 pm)
This will be interesting to watch: Element vs. Baja, in terms of sales. They're both going after the same audience, in many cases.
Nov 08, 2002 (2:29 pm)
Yeah, but when you're talking about a trendy vehicle it's much easier to sustain sales when you're talking $20k average prices vs. $23k or so.
It's received similar criticism - too heavy, not enough engine, too much cladding. I bet the lower price alone (yes, with less content, but still) will ensure it sells better.
#775 of 2213 Tranny problems already?
Nov 08, 2002 (7:11 pm)
Geez, Subara is already fixing a transmission problem with these things? Yeesh.
Nov 08, 2002 (7:33 pm)
On the contrary - it's just that these batches of transmissions noted in the recall are suspect of weaker park rods. The transmission, gears, etc. are fine.
The 4EAT has been used for years in Subies and is pretty robust.
#777 of 2213 Reviews Please
Nov 10, 2002 (10:06 pm)
A lot of discussion has been devoted to color, equpment, pricing, marketing strategy, wish lists, etc. Could some of you owners provide a personal review of your Baja, i.e., likes, dislikes, driving tips, vehicle quirks, etc. I'm sure a lot of readers would find that information useful.
Nov 11, 2002 (9:28 am)
The tranny has been around for ages, it was just a coincidence that a problem crept up now. Less than 800 are affected. I still say the auto is very robust and reliable.
Good idea, Mike. How does it handle when you push it? How's the steering? How's the ride over pot holes, and the structure overall? You happy with the tire selection? Body roll, brake dive and squat?