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Toyota Sienna, Dodge Caravan, Chevrolet Venture, Mazda MPV, Kia Sedona, Honda Odyssey, Chevrolet Uplander, Nissan Quest, Hyundai Entourage, Van
#877 of 3798 Re: First van with fold flat seat? [tamu2002]
Jun 24, 2005 (2:26 pm)
Original Odyssey? or the 1999 larger GC sized Odyssey? The MPV was a small SUV for many years and Mazda changed to having the MPV become a small minivan just before the SUV became the "in" vehicle.
I have driven a KIA Sedona and was impressed with the smooth ride and low price. However, it lacks many nice features of the DC minivans that I could not do without after buying my used 2002 T&C last summer after comparing one son's 2001 Ody EX purchased new and another son's used 2002 GC Sport he got as a used vehicle. Separately controlled temperature for driver and front passenger is THE BEST idea for comfort since heaters and air conditioners were invented .
DC introduced this luxury feature for the masses at a reasonable price about 10 years ago when it could be an option in virtually all but the very cheapest DC minivan. Toyota finally offered it in the 2004 Sienna XLE and Honda put it in all but the cheapest Odyssey EX for the 2005 model year. KIA is reported to have the feature in ALL 2006 Sedonas. Meanwhile: Nissan, Mazda, Ford continue to be asleep and ignore the comfort of their minivan buyers.
#878 of 3798 Re: First van with fold flat seat? [hansienna]
Jun 24, 2005 (3:16 pm)
Honda put it in all but the cheapest Odyssey EX for the 2005 model year
Incorrect. EX has it - LX does not.
I have it always set on "sync". I doubt I will ever use such a feature.
#879 of 3798 Re: First van with fold flat seat? [hansienna]
Jun 24, 2005 (5:59 pm)
Separately controlled temperature for driver and front passenger is THE BEST idea for comfort since heaters and air conditioners were invented .
But the greatest feature is a power hatch!!!!! I love it I love it I love it!!!! Have I mentioned how much I love my power hatch??? I LOVE IT!!! Also like how it beeeps when opening to warn people!!
#880 of 3798 Re: MPV...Zoom Zoom [tamu2002]
Jun 24, 2005 (6:35 pm)
"I'm correct jipster, aren't I?"
Sounds good to me. I have read where it was...and also where it wasn't.
I do believe they were the first to offer the power middle windows as well as the sliding second row captains chair that can form a bench seat. We could use the split folding rear seat on our upcoming trip, as the mother in law is going with our family of 4. But other than that and the side curtain airbags(not available) we got everything we wanted.
#881 of 3798 Re: MPV...Zoom Zoom [jipster]
Jun 25, 2005 (6:42 am)
Sounds good to me. I have read where it was...and also where it wasn't.
I do believe they were the first to offer the power middle windows as well as the sliding second row captains chair that can form a bench seat. We could use the split folding rear seat on our upcoming trip, as the mother in law is going with our family of 4. But other than that and the side curtain airbags(not available) we got everything we wanted
I'm wondering when Ford will tell Mazda "Hey, we have this great Minivan platform, you should dump the smaller MPV and let us make a clone of Freestar for you". Instead of doing the smart thing and letting Mazda make Ford a real minivan!!!! MPVs are great, just too small and not enough power for my family/camping needs.
#882 of 3798 El Cheapo Minivans ($18K and under)
Jun 25, 2005 (6:56 am)
I'm looking at getting a new car at the end of this year or thereabouts, and will probably end up with a minivan. (I'm also interested in the Mazda5, but worry about it being underpowered, aside from being ugly, and the Chevy HHR, which may be too small and also underpowered for my needs). I'm a librarian, which means I'm poor! I absolutely cannot afford a $30K minivan.
So, I'm looking for a van in the $16-18K range. From what I can gather, this puts me in the market for a Mazda MPV (which I quite like) or possibly a Kia Sedona (I worry about Kia quality, though.) Anything else? I'd be fine with something used, too, though it seems like the Honda and Toyotas that would be used and in that price range would be significantly older vans. I'd like to stick with '04 and later, if I can.
I don't have kids, so all that's going in this van is an 80 lb German Shepherd and some road bikes--we're cyclists on the weekends. I really, really like the fold-flat third row seat on the MPV for this reason and the split bench seat.
I suffered through an anemic 4-cylinder Subaru Outback for about a year, and while I realize I'm not going to get major acceleration in a minivan, a healthy 6 cylinder is a must. My last car before the Outback was a Z-28, and I miss it.
#883 of 3798 Re: MPV...Zoom Zoom [dennisctc]
Jun 25, 2005 (7:27 am)
" I'm wondering when Ford will tell Mazda..."
I hope that day never comes. Some people like the Freestar.But, I would never buy a minivan made by Ford...no matter what label they put it under. Now, a Ford minivan that is made by Mazda would have some possibilities.
The Ford Duratec 3.0 200hp in the MPV is a very good reliable engine, with all the power we need..but could be a little smoother with better low end torque.
#884 of 3798 Re: tamu2002 [tamu2002]
Jun 25, 2005 (7:43 am)
Well, tamu2002 now that I know your little secret I have to say I can hardly type your name without cringing (just kidding) seeing how I am a huge OU fan. Oh yes, I am from Oklahoma and my old stomping ground is on the OU campus! But at least we agree on one thing the Quest IMO is unbeatable in style and price for what you get and is probably what we will go with when we purchase our van.
#885 of 3798 Re: El Cheapo Minivans ($18K and under) [charlotte7]
Jun 25, 2005 (8:55 am)
Some of the lesser-equipped Dodge and Chrysler minivan models will fit your budget.
We own a 2002 Kia Sedona EX with 52,000 miles and have been very satisfied with it. It has been reliable and required very few dealer warranty fixes. Reliability and quality are important to me, and I felt the Sedona would fit the bill due to its good reputation in Europe as the Kia Carnival.
The 2005 models should be very reasonably priced, with the all-new 2006 model being released in the next few months. If the gee-whiz minivan features (foldaway seats, power sliding doors, backup warning sensors, power hatch, etc) are not critical, give the Sedona a look.
It does sound like seating flexibility would be important for you, so you might be better off in the MPV. It could be your best choice, as its smallish minivan dimensions likely are a non-issue since you don't have kids.
Contrary to what some reviews say, the van is peppy. And fuel economy is not as bad as some folks would have you believe.
#886 of 3798 Re: El Cheapo Minivans ($18K and under) [charlotte7]
Jun 25, 2005 (9:19 am)
If you are going for the 16-18k range , I would buy new. Either the Mazda MPV or Kia Sedona...2005 shouldnt be that bad in terms of quality.It does have a very good warranty. I doubt your going to be able to fit an 80lb dog and a couple road bikes in the third row folded down area. You may have to pull out a second row captains chair or let Fido ride shotgun.