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Toyota Sienna, Dodge Caravan, Chevrolet Venture, Mazda MPV, Kia Sedona, Honda Odyssey, Chevrolet Uplander, Nissan Quest, Hyundai Entourage, Van
May 16, 2005 (9:29 am)
"Why be concerned with when stowaway seating was first introduced? I know Honda has offered it in their Odyssey since 1999. I know that Mazda has had it for several years in their MPV as well as Nissan in their Quest. For that matter, I'm certain that some form of stowaway seating was available in domestic station wagons as far back as the 50's"
Rorr-- I'm aware of the rumble seating you're referring to. I'm speaking specifically on the minivans.
You're on the right track, though. I want a minivan and also want the stowaway seating but cannot afford a brand new vehicle.
I'm also wondering now if getting the stowaway feature would be giving up on comfort for functionality. Any thoughts?
#635 of 3798 sisterstein
May 16, 2005 (9:43 am)
Ah, now your question regarding when the stowaway seating was introduced makes a lot more sense.
Re - seat comfort. As far as the 3rd row goes, I don't think the stowaway feature causes any loss in seat comfort. All the wells which receive the seat seem to be fairly deep so the designers don't really have to make many compromises in comfort to make the seat stowable. The 2nd row is a bit different as the available space to receive the folded seat is a little less. How much it affects 2nd row seat comfort seems to vary from backside to backside. You're best bet would be to try one out and judge the comfort for yourself.
May 16, 2005 (10:23 am)
Note that the second row in the Nissan Quest does not fold completely flush as it does in the Dodge/Chrysler Stow and Go. Thus on the Nissan, this may not be as nice as having a completely flat load floor when the seats are stowed.
Also, you have to put up with an awful dash with an R2D2 center console which houses all the controls and displays. Not my idea of an ergonomic dash.
#637 of 3798 Re: Nissan Quest [badgerfan]
May 16, 2005 (9:08 pm)
..."awful dash..." "Not my idea of an ergonomic dash"
But, it may be the good sisters idea. She's not buying for you badger. Anyhow, she is not looking to buy new. The fairly new 2004 Quest is probably not what she is looking for.
Why so concerned about 3rd row seat comfort? Unless, you're a back seat driver! ha ha But seriously sister...how much you wanting to spend? Could you be a little more specific sister?
May 17, 2005 (2:09 am)
I'm probably out of my league, but used I'm looking at probably $13,000-ish. If threre are any that have stowaway seating, my guess is that it would be third row only made by an import, which is why I'm fishing for advice. I have been in the dark ages awhile and am hoping to educate myself.
Thanks to everyone for your input.
#639 of 3798 sisterstein
May 17, 2005 (6:04 am)
Well, for that price range, you've got the last generation Honda Odyssey (with the 'magic' 3rd row stowable seat) and the current generation Mazda MPV with stowable 3rd row seat.
I suppose it's possible to locate a DC van with 2nd/3rd row stow'n'go seating for that price but not likely at all (they've only been out for a year). I'm fairly certain none of the GM offerings had stowable seating until this year so they'll be out of consideration. Previous generation Ford Windstar, Kia Sedona and Toyota Sienna did not have stowable seating.
For your budget, it looks like either an older Odyssey or a somewhat newer MPV would be your choices it stowable seating was a major factor.
#640 of 3798 re: stowaway seats [sistereinstein]
May 18, 2005 (9:26 pm)
My wife is also wanting a mini van with the stow-away 3rd row seat. I've been looking at the 2004 Ford Freestar, which is a re-styled Windstar. New ones are a bit overpriced, and like a lot of domestic vehicles, they depreciate like a brick. I'm finding a bunch of 04 Freestar SES's hitting the dealers around the northwest area, with 20-30000 miles with an asking range of $14-18K, which is about half of what they sticker for new. To get something less than $14K, you are looking at the Mazda MPV starting in year 2000, and the Honda Odyssey starting in 1999.
The Honda's are highly rated, but $13k is going to get you a 5yr old one with 70-80K miles on it. I like the MPV, but they are a bit smaller and were under powered until 2002 when the engine size was increased. Toyota and Nissan didn't have folding 3rd seat til the 2004 model, and don't depreciate enough to reach your target price range.
#641 of 3798 Just bought a 05 odyssey in MD
May 22, 2005 (9:31 am)
Just bought a 05 odyssey EX-L with DVD entertainment system (no navigation) for $29,500 + taxes,tags, freight for an out of the door price of 31,080. Wondering if it's a decent deal? I am thinking it's about $650 over invoice...
#643 of 3798 Quest space behind 3rd row enough for double stroller?
May 23, 2005 (9:18 am)
We're looking to buy a van real soon. we've narrowed down to the Quest and the Grand Caravan. We love the Quest's styling, modern interior and comfortable seats. Funny but the lack of 3rd row split seating has become the biggest sticking point. Having had a GC as a rental for 2 weeks, my wife has grown to really appeciate this feature, particular she plans to carry a double stroller in the van all the time. We have 3 kids, so the 3rd row will always be occupied with one car seat which makes the Quest's fold-into-floor-3rd-row feature practically disappear. If we keep a hugh double stroller in the well, will there be enough room left for groceryies?? Please share your thoughts on this. Thanks!