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You are in the Vans & Minivans
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Toyota Sienna, Dodge Caravan, Chevrolet Venture, Mazda MPV, Kia Sedona, Honda Odyssey, Chevrolet Uplander, Nissan Quest, Hyundai Entourage, Van
#607 of 3798 MPV VS CARAVAN/GRAND
Apr 14, 2005 (10:16 am)
This is only a one van sample...but my sisters 1998 Grand Caravan engine blew up on their way to Florida last week. They had recently made several 1000's $ in repairs. Bought themselves a big ol Dodge Durango.
Sounds to me you've pretty much made up your mine to go with the MPV. I have a 2004 MPV LX and it is the perfect minivan for our family of 4. We have all the room we need, and then some when we want to take the grandparents somewhere....or go on a trip. The styling of interior and exterior, and overall quality is ahead of that of the Caravan and Grand Caravan in my opinion. The rear seat of the MPV also reverses out to tailgate.
If you are like marine2 and do a lot of stowing and going...the Dodge Caravan may be a better choice.
#608 of 3798 Re: Caravan vs MPV [marine2]
Apr 14, 2005 (10:23 am)
marine2 - he was talking about the regular Caravan, not the Grand Caravan. No Stow and Go available on those.
Bluewolf - My guess is that you could get a similarly equipped Caravan for less. but you'd give up the fold flat 3rd seat
And though you're concerned about buying a Chrysler product, in the current 2005 Consumer Report Auto issue, the Caravan has average reliability, while the MPV rates as poor - looks like a transmission problem is the culprit of you read through it (half black circle for 2004 models)
#609 of 3798 Re: Caravan vs MPV [mrblonde49]
Apr 14, 2005 (10:44 am)
The MPV "transmission problem" was a programming glitch in some of the 2003-early 2004 models. Easily corrected with reflashing the transmission control module.Nothing like the problems Chrysler has had with their transmissions...or Honda for that matter.Up until the 2005 issue of Consumer Reports the MPV had the highest reliability rating of ALL minivans(per Consumer Reports)
#610 of 3798 Re: Caravan vs MPV [jipster]
Apr 14, 2005 (11:30 am)
I'm just posting facts.
From the 2005 Consumer Reports MPV report:
Reliability has declined, so we can't recommend the MPV.
Predicted Reliability: poor
#611 of 3798 Re: Caravan vs MPV [marine2]
Apr 14, 2005 (4:06 pm)
I know a couple very happy MPV owners, but nobody with a Caravan.
Having had 2 Caravans as company vehicles...each with over 70k miles and no major issues (and I never baby my company vehicles!!)....I was HAPPY enough to buy one as my own personal Minivan..a GC SXT with "Stow n Go", tow package, sunroof, power hatch/doors......I'm Very Happy.
Ohh and with rebates, financing and a good friend's DCX employee discount...out the door for $19,000
Personally, I like the looks of the MPV etc....but a short wheelbase minvan is too mini for me.
#612 of 3798 Re: Caravan vs MPV [dennisctc]
Apr 14, 2005 (4:36 pm)
No doubt about it dennisctc. People buy what they are familiar and comfortable with. My sister blew her engine in her Grand Caravan...didn't stop her from buying another Dodge(Durango). So, overall she is still comfortable with Dodge products...which are reasonable priced. You can get a very well loaded Caravan, MPV or Sedona for around $20,000 out the door. Use that extra 5 grand to invest in oil futures.
#613 of 3798 Re: Caravan vs MPV [mrblonde49]
Apr 15, 2005 (6:43 am)
"I'm just posting facts"
Seems you are posting the "facts" only when it is convienent for you to do so.You have several posts(CT&C,D.G.C post #511 and Minivan shopping post #415) which you speak of Consumer Report being biased. And now you are quoting from C.R as if it were gospel. If Consumer Reports is biased as you say...why are you quoting them???
Knowing the facts goes a long way in determining the predicted reliability of a vehicile.(specifically that the transmission "issue" of the MPV has been resolved at production and has not affected any vehicles post March 2004) C.R did not take this into consideration. Bookmark this post...I'll bet you dimes to doughnuts the 2006 Consumer Report Car Review has the 2005 MPV as one of the most reliable AND highly recommended.(in the reincarnated form of the new Mazda 5)
#614 of 3798 Re: Caravan vs MPV [jipster]
Apr 15, 2005 (7:08 am)
Seems you are posting the "facts" only when it is convienent for you to do so.You have several posts(CT&C,D.G.C post #511 and Minivan shopping post #415) which you speak of Consumer Report being biased. And now you are quoting from C.R as if it were gospel. If Consumer Reports is biased as you say...why are you quoting them??? "
In those posts, I mentioned a possible Honda bias, as shown by them listing the Brand new Odyssey as reliable, while listing vehicles that were relased half a year earlier as "NEW".
What does that have to do with what we are discussing? The Caravan short wheelbase and MPV have been out for years...
The original poster was comparing the base Caravan and the MPV, and specifically mentioned being leery of buying Chrysler based on reliability. I simply stated what the most commonly used source for auto reliability (CR) had to say in their latest issue regarding this subject.
If you take this as some sort of affront to you or you van, in that you'd go so far as to look up old posts of mine to try to prove some sort of contridiction, I guess that's your own issue...
#615 of 3798 Let's knock off the personal attacks
Apr 15, 2005 (7:54 am)
Everyone has a different experience and each experience is valid. People are entitled to their opinions. Agree to disagree and move on. If you don't like what someone has to say - read on.
#616 of 3798 AWD vs. FWD in Toyota Sienna LE 2005
Apr 16, 2005 (4:09 pm)
We are considering a 2005 Toyota Sienna LE. We have had a 4 wheel drive Jeep Grand Cherokee for 8 years. It is a rear wheel drive vehicle but can be put into 4 wheel drive when needed. We have used this feature for snow and ice mainly, altho' it has been handy to go across a field at a concert once or twice We assumed we would need to get the AWD on the van but the salesman that we have talked to insisted that we really didn't need anything more than the front wheel drive on this van for snow and ice.
I have a front wheel drive car that is very good in snow and ice. But I have always felt like the four wheel drive was more reliable. However, I really HATE the feel of the Jeep 4 wheel drive driving if there is no snow on the ground.
My question is basically this: Do you think that the Front Wheel Drive in the Toyota Sienna is as good for getting thru snow and ice as the All Wheel Drive would be. We live in Tennessee so we don't have much snow, but we also have very little snow removal by the city when we do have snow.
Any help or information would be appreciated.