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Toyota Sienna, Dodge Caravan, Chevrolet Venture, Mazda MPV, Kia Sedona, Honda Odyssey, Chevrolet Uplander, Nissan Quest, Hyundai Entourage, Van
#530 of 3798 Re: 05 MPV vs. Odyssey? [neworleansdish]
Mar 16, 2005 (6:49 pm)
It depends on what you want and are looking for in a minivan...as well as how much you are wanting to spend. The MPV will save you close to 6 thousand over a similarlly equipped Ody.You can easily get the MPV at invoice minus rebate. You want a bigger van with more elbow room, better resale if not keeping it long....go Ody. Ody has stability control...which really shouldn't come into play if you drive halfway sensibly... comes standard on Ody .Both handle well, though smaller MPV is easier to manuver and park...fits better inside garage.Ride is softer in Ody, though noise a bit more pronounced.I like them MPV styling the most...2005 Ody borrowed many exterior features from MPV...so it does look a lot nicer than the earlier models. Fit, finish and overall quality of both are excellent. From what I've read Ody's going for MSRP to around $700 over invoice depending on what part of country you are living in.Mazda has one extra year of warranty coverage...bumper to bumper. Mazda has the better advertising slogan in my opinion..."ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM" sung to a Jamican tune.
#531 of 3798 Re: 05 MPV vs. Odyssey? [jipster]
Mar 16, 2005 (8:50 pm)
Good summary although I don't agree with the "[VSC] ... shouldn't come into play if you drive halfway sensibly" comment.
Sure, you can greatly reduce the odds of an accident / evasive steering situation by driving sensibly but you can't control what other people do.
I've never caused an accident myself and I've probably avoided a number of bad situations because of defensive driving. But, I've still been in 2 (relatively minor) accidents which were caused by other people and 1 serious one (I was a passenger in a Golf where the driver overcorrected after going onto the shoulder and ended up rolling the car about 5x at about 80 mph).
I've also had numerous occasions where something has fallen off of a truck in front of me, or I rounded a corner to find my lane half blocked by a huge piece of tire or a traffic cone that someone driving a rented Ryder truck knocked over etc. .
The recent concensus seems to indicate that VSC could end up saving almost as many lives as seatbelts (I guess you could just as easily have also applied the above comment to seatbelts or airbags).
And, there are reports that VSC helps with cornering in snow -- its a lot harder to spin out apparently.
Just my .02 .
#532 of 3798 Re: 05 MPV vs. Odyssey? [eta]
Mar 17, 2005 (6:19 am)
Oh, I would definitely get VSC on my next vehicle. It is good insurance. I would like to know more about how it was field tested if anyone out there knows of any good web sites.
Also, might VSC be the cause of an accident if it doesn't allow enough correction to evade a truck tire or similar object in the road. Seatbelts and airbags are not like VSC.VSC is suppose to prevent the accidents that you would have needed the seatbelt and airbag for.And, is VSC suppose to prevent rollover at any speed? It would seem that at 80mph any vehicle would roll.Speed(to much of it)is a factor in the majority of accidents.I think the vast majority of time VSC would come into play when the driver is going to fast for road conditions and takes a turn to quickly. I do hope it is as good as advertised.
#533 of 3798 Re: 05 MPV vs. Odyssey? [jipster]
Mar 17, 2005 (7:52 am)
> And, is VSC suppose to prevent rollover at any speed? It would seem that at 80mph any vehicle would roll.
Agreed -- VSC can only do so much.
I suspect VSC *might* have prevented the rollover that I was involved in because it would have prevented the series of overcorrections which led to the car swerving and ultimately flipping over.
But, as you say, if you head into a hairpin turn at 70mph, basic physics is going to take over at that point.
#534 of 3798 Re: 05 MPV vs. Odyssey? [jipster]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Mar 17, 2005 (7:53 am)
Stability Control, are you ready for it? may have some field reports. I remember reading about one owner's experience about six months ago in the XC 90 discussion, but that's the only one here I can recall off-hand.
#535 of 3798 Re: 05 MPV vs. Odyssey? [neworleansdish]
Mar 17, 2005 (8:05 am)
I say if you're going to buy a "MINI"Van....get a big one!!!! I always had short wheelbase Caravans for company cars from work, but the added space for the Ody or Sienna or Domestics is great for homedepot runs, camping, hauling!!!
#536 of 3798 Re: 05 MPV vs. Odyssey? [eta]
Mar 17, 2005 (10:45 am)
Question. We don't have VSC on any of our vechicles. My Wife has been hit from behind in our car twice and I have hit someone from behind twice on wet roads. How would VSC have prevented these kind of accidents. (Let me add that the cars that I had the accidents in were older cars that didn't have ABS or Electronic Brake Distribution.) I think the technology is great, but I have a problem with cars driving themselves. (I like to be in control) I have avoided many of accidents with defensive driving and being watchful of other drivers and anticipate their move. Most of the time for me I have avoided accidents buy applying the brakes.
#538 of 3798 Suggestions Please...
Mar 20, 2005 (7:30 am)
We (4) have a 2nd house in South Florida and want to keep an economic, reliable vehicle there at all times. Since we will have visitors who will fly, we will need to drive them about to dinner and the airport.
We first thought of an Accord/Camry due to their value, relative space and no fuss reliability. We need more seats however for the above visitor scenario.
I do not want to spend more than I have too. AWD is not necessary. A 'stripper' is fine since the vehicle will not be in use for more than 8 to 12 weeks a year for the next couple of years.
Any suggestions or thoughts are appreciated.
#539 of 3798 Re: Suggestions Please... [00boxsters]
Mar 20, 2005 (2:16 pm)
don't know what u want to spend, but i would try for a new base Dodge Caravan, advertised in south florida for $13,995 or maybe $13,995, don't remember which price i saw, plus tax, no trade, dont let them try to sell u a bunch of unneeded things, like extended warranty, etc., base van holds 7 passengers and luggage in back, has air, automatic, ps, pb, stereo cassette radio, very reliable, good gas mileage, i am not a salesman, did this myself a few years back, 1999, used for 5 years, and still sold it for just under half price of new, pretty cheap i thought, area i vacation in is miramar fl., i think maroone is local chrysler dealer there, plus others and they all advertise a base price van in miami herald every day or week,