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Re: 85% chance it' gonna be Oddy [kiams] by jchan2
Feb 07, 2009 (9:39 pm)
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Replying to: kiams (Feb 07, 2009 8:19 am)

I don't know about the '05 Odyssey; it still a somewhat flimsy transmission design that fails at a higher rate than the newer ones; it could be a roll of the dice. Odysseys have had some serious transmission issues in the 1999-2004 design, and some of those bugs could have rolled over into the '05s. The transmission was strengthened in 2007 with a newer design.
 
Although at $11,500 it seems like a decent price. With the 5 years, 100K warranty, I'd probably give it a shot.
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Re: 85% chance it' gonna be Oddy [jchan2] by sebring95
Feb 08, 2009 (7:37 am)
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Replying to: jchan2 (Feb 07, 2009 9:39 pm)

I don't know about the '05 Odyssey; it still a somewhat flimsy transmission design that fails at a higher rate than the newer ones;
 
What data are you basing this on? Having been sociable on all the Ody forums around the net since buying our '05, I've seen one instance of an '05 tranny grenading and a couple replaced due to seal leaks....all at very low mileage. In recent months, I've seen two different posts of '07 trannys being replaced. It's certainly nothing like the Ody trannys from years past where it's more surprising that the tranny DIDN'T crash. I know they switched to the 4-shaft transmission in '07 although I have my doubts that was done for any reliability reasons...I'm wagering it was to simplify the supply chain. In speaking with my dealer, they've not replaced a single transmission yet from the '05+ models and said they service several with over 100k. They get complaints about the downshifting while braking....but that seems to be the norm on most newer transmissions these days. As a precaution, I'm doing a fluid swap (just drain/fill) on the tranny every 30k miles. Cheap insurance if nothing else.
 
Once we got through a few of the common problems on the '05 Odys....we've been smooth sailing. Now crossing 50k miles recently and haven't had a complaint in a good year. I wouldn't hesitate to buy an '05 as long as the updates had been applied.
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Re: 85% chance it' gonna be Oddy [sebring95] by kiams
Feb 08, 2009 (8:05 am)
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Replying to: sebring95 (Feb 08, 2009 7:37 am)

Once we got through a few of the common problems on the '05 Odys....we've been smooth sailing. Now crossing 50k miles recently and haven't had a complaint in a good year. I wouldn't hesitate to buy an '05 as long as the updates had been applied
 
Thanks, btw, care to list them for me please? I want to be as knowledgeable and well armed as possible on this decision.
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Re: 85% chance it' gonna be Oddy [kiams] by sebring95
Feb 08, 2009 (8:50 am)
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Replying to: kiams (Feb 08, 2009 8:05 am)

The three "big" problems from the '05 models seem to be the brake groaning, windshield whistle, and power steering pump whining. I was aware of all three TSB's before we complained to the dealer about any of the issues. The brake groaning was very erratic, started after the first year and would do it maybe once a month. The windshield whistle started very early but it only seemed to occur at certain speeds with certain winds and usually only when raining. The power steering started to whine around 20k miles and that's when I took it in and complained about all three issues. They installed new updated pads, turned the rotors, new updated power-steering pump, and new windshield trim.
 
Other issues we've had include the six-disc CD changer acting goofy and the DVD system freezing up about 30 minutes into a movie. They replaced both six-disc changer and the DVD player without question. The last "repair" I've had was last winter when I was in for service (around 35k miles) I complained that the rear hatch was very slow to open when it was cold. They put new struts on the rear hatch under warranty.
 
So in terms of shear problems, we've had quite a few issues although none really amounted to much. The fact that the three major ones were known issues that were supposedly corrected by updated parts....I'm hoping those issues won't reoccur. I've owned quite a few first-year vehicles and I've had far worse. We really like the Odyssey though and have kept it much longer than we normally keep our travel vehicle. I might just be getting cheaper in my old age though, but I honestly haven't found anything worth upgrading to yet.
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Re: 85% chance it' gonna be Oddy [sebring95] by jchan2
Feb 08, 2009 (9:05 am)
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Replying to: sebring95 (Feb 08, 2009 7:37 am)

I seem to recall reading on the Ody transmission board somewhere that a few '05 transmissions had failed, or maybe I was getting those mixed up in the massive amounts of '99-'04 models that had failed transmissions.
 
In this case, yeah, just buy the '05 Odyssey and call it a day.
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Re: What to get???....need help [hause7] by ateixeira
Feb 09, 2009 (10:31 am)
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Replying to: hause7 (Feb 06, 2009 2:33 pm)

I forget what year they changed it, but when the MPV went to a 5 speed auto trans they changed suppliers and went with JATCO.
 
Japanese Auto Transmission COmpany, I think is what is stands for. Definitely not Ford at that point.
 
Mazda had plenty of bad Ford transmissions, CD4E namely, but later MPVs were not among those.
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Siennaclub? by hause7
Feb 09, 2009 (6:41 pm)
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Does anyone know what's wrong with it? It's been down since Thursday. I really wanted to go on there with some questions. Just wondering if anyone on here uses it or knows any of the people that run the site. Thanks
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Re: Siennaclub? [hause7] by eandlcubed
Feb 09, 2009 (8:01 pm)
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Replying to: hause7 (Feb 09, 2009 6:41 pm)

I pulled up my paypal account and searched through all my transactions. i donated to the site 5 years ago. the founder name is jack bowell (email is Jackbowellville.com) ... don't know if email is still good though. i will email him to see what had happened.
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Re: Siennaclub? [eandlcubed] by hause7
Feb 09, 2009 (9:26 pm)
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Replying to: eandlcubed (Feb 09, 2009 8:01 pm)

Thanks eandlcubed, I just emailed him, just hope it's not down for good. It was a very informative website for us Sienna owners.
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Re: Siennaclub? [hause7] by eandlcubed
Feb 10, 2009 (9:08 am)
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Replying to: hause7 (Feb 09, 2009 9:26 pm)

my email to him got kicked back with a message 'mailbox full,' i found him on facebook but need an id to get in. don't want to create one though. maybe you or someone can contact him thru that route. he lives near biloxy.

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