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Toyota Sienna, Dodge Caravan, Chevrolet Venture, Mazda MPV, Kia Sedona, Honda Odyssey, Chevrolet Uplander, Nissan Quest, Hyundai Entourage, Van
#3582 of 3798 Re: Toyota Sienna [jpf]
Jan 27, 2009 (1:04 pm)
It only affected the 3.0L V6 on the 1998-2003 Sienna's plus it only occured to a few owners not everyone. The 2004-2006 use the 3.3L V6 and the 2007-present use a 3.5L V6.
We had a trouble free 04 Sienna Limited AWD that we traded in with 90,000 miles for our now 07 Sienna XLE FWD because we didn't need the AWD here in California.
If you are gonna buy a Sienna an 05-newer are rated excellent in consumer reports. Try and find an 07 in your budget. It uses a Timing chain instead of a belt, has a lot more power, and gets the same if not better gas mileage then the 3.3L.
Just my .02 Cents
#3583 of 3798 Re: Toyota Sienna [kbella3]
Feb 03, 2009 (1:15 pm)
hause7 beat me to it, but I was going to suggest a 2007 for the same reason - no belt to change, more HP on the 2007 and later.
Just took ours to Florida and back (I'm in the DC area) and it was a great utility vehicle, carrying people and luggage all over the place. Our group had 17 people!
The funny thing is all the kids wanted to come with me in the van because I had the 12" movie playing all the time.
#3584 of 3798 What to get???....need help
Feb 05, 2009 (4:06 pm)
I have posted this question elsewhere, but now that I found this thread, I might as well re-post it here.
I'm on the verge of becoming a "van-Dad", albeit unwillingly, and I have been fielding different views on which van to get. My initial purchase is $10K, with no desire to do financing...I want outright owneship of the vehile...and with this 10K burning a hole in my pocket, I need to locate a van before too long.
What I'm looking for is dual power sliding doors, and possibly power lift gate. I have a toddler who will need a wheelchair, so the less we have to fumble with the doors the better.
In another forum (not edmunds), someone recommended Mazda MPV since apparently, their reliability had improved dramatically since 2000 MY redesign. I took a test drive in one this afternoon, and I liked it. A quick survey in Autotrader (within 100 miles of Boston) revealed 2 choices
1.) 2004 Mazda MPV LX with 12K miles --> asking $12,500. Has clean carfax, 1-owner and is at a mazda dealership
2.) 2004 Mazda MPV LX with 63K miles --> asking $6,900. Has clean carfax, 3-owners and is at a GMC-Pontiac-Buick dealership
What to do now??...buy high miles half price and save the moolah, or buy low miles and add 3K to the budget....aaarrgh! I am getting a headache
Drum roll now is on 2004 Sienna (high miles) v.s. 2004 MPV (high miles for $7K) v.s. 2004 MPV (low miles for $12.5K)
#3585 of 3798 Re: What to get???....need help [kiams]
Feb 05, 2009 (6:24 pm)
Get the low miles MPV LX, try to negotiate it down to $11,000 flat.
3 owners for any car with only 70K miles is trouble; try to get as few owners as possible on a used car.
#3586 of 3798 Re: What to get???....need help [kiams]
Feb 05, 2009 (7:51 pm)
I'd stick with my budget and go from there.
#3587 of 3798 Re: What to get???....need help [kiams]
Feb 05, 2009 (9:55 pm)
I'm with jchan. Avoid the one that's been through 3 owners already.
If the MPV is enough vehicle for your needs, don't bother with the Sienna.
Go for the MPV with low miles and knock the price down a bit. If they're smart they'll give up on the ridiculous $12.5k asking price and let you have it at your $10k budget. If not, keep looking.
#3588 of 3798 Re: What to get???....need help [kiams]
Feb 06, 2009 (10:06 am)
I like the MPV and considered it my favorite van for a long time before I bought my Sienna. My friends kept telling me it might not be big enough for my needs.
I'm glad they told me that because at times I've used every bit of space in our Sienna, and today the MPV seems small to me. With a wheelchair you may want to consider how much cargo room you'll have since the chair itself already takes up some space.
I think the side-by-slide seats in the 2nd row are an industry-best, though.
#3589 of 3798 Re: What to get???....need help [kiams]
Feb 06, 2009 (2:33 pm)
I don't want to sound Bias. I only say stay away from the MPV because of a close family friend's personal experience. I mean they are cool looking minivans, our friend drives an 04 LX with the sport package in that Dark Green color. BUT they are on there 3rd transmission at 72,000 miles! 2 of them replaced under warranty. I don't know if it's reliability dropped because it's basically a Ford drivetrain or what, but they are looking to get rid of theirs.
Go with a used Sienna or Odyssey. You can find them for that price, probably more Sienna's because the Odyssey's tend to be more pricey used.
#3590 of 3798 85% chance it' gonna be Oddy
Feb 07, 2009 (8:19 am)
I had a chance to drive an 2005 Oddy EX-L and I have to admit,...me likey likey...
I just layed 10 separate Bank of America envelopes with ten $100 bills inside on the table at a Toyota dealership after the test drive and the used car manager threw a hissy fit...
He goes, "I got that car for more 11K, I have put $1000 work into it, here's the invoices...I'm not gonna let that car go for less than $12,900"
I just picked up my envelopes, smiled and asked him to call me when the van is there on day 59....BTW the van was at their sister Honda dealership for more than 75 days...and it's been at the Toyota dealeship for 25 days so far...
Oh and by the way, I got introduced to a friend who has a dealer license and says he can get me a 2005 Honda Odyssey EX-L with less than 60K from the auction for 10K plus $350 service fee and $350 auction fees and $750 warranty (5yrs/100K) coverage...total $11,500...does this sound feasible?
#3591 of 3798 Re: Used or new [hause7]
Feb 07, 2009 (8:27 am)
for hause7. your email is marked 'private' so i can't send you mail. if you are the same hause on sienna club, i want to ask if you knew the site is down? i tried and it directed me to the same url but more like a search engine. thanks -ecandlcubed