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Toyota Sienna, Dodge Caravan, Chevrolet Venture, Mazda MPV, Kia Sedona, Honda Odyssey, Chevrolet Uplander, Nissan Quest, Hyundai Entourage, Van
#3130 of 3798 Re: Need help. Which minivan would you buy, and why? [azjost]
Jul 08, 2007 (5:28 am)
Regarding Your Option #2: I am also looking at Chrysler/Dodge minivans and was able to find multiple 2006 Grand Caravans/Town & Countrys (long wheel base) with 15,000 miles for $16,900. If you can live with the shorter wheel base, I found a bunch, also with 15-20,000 miles, for $13,900. This is in St. Louis, Missouri. I can provide links if you need them.
This way you still have at least 1.5 years and 15-20,000 miles left on the warranty, and you are spending substantially under $20,000.
We haven't pulled the trigger yet. Ironically, we are waiting to see if my parents want to sell us their used Sienna at a loss. But if that falls through, we determined the Caravan/TC was by far the best option for our budget.
Also, I know most people's car opinions are anecdotal, but we had GREAT experiences with a '90 Dodge Shadow and a '97 Plymouth Voyager. We drove the Shadow for 8 years until it was stolen and are still driving the Voyager with minimal problems. I should note that both were bought NEW. However, I wouldn't hesitate to give a late model/low mileage Chrysler minivan a chance.
#3131 of 3798 Re: Domestic VS Foreign??? [ateixeira]
Jul 09, 2007 (5:28 am)
I have a neighbor (who in fairness carries heavy carpet samples in his) but he goes through transmissions like I go through toilet paper on his Dodges. "
I wonder if he's loading it up more than the specs allow
#3132 of 3798 Re: Domestic VS Foreign??? [mrblonde49]
Jul 10, 2007 (10:45 am)
That's quite possible. But don't a lot of people do that? Overload that is.
He should get a Sprinter.
#3133 of 3798 Re: Domestic VS Foreign??? [ateixeira]
Jul 11, 2007 (5:00 am)
That's quite possible. But don't a lot of people do that? Overload that is. "
Maybe. But I bet those people (in any brand of car) also see their transmission failure rates skyrocket
#3134 of 3798 Re: Need help. Which minivan would you buy, and why? [azjost]
Jul 11, 2007 (10:41 am)
Haven't you heard that a 2008 major redesign is coming for DCX vans?
In metro Detroit, one can buy a new 2007 DCX minivan for 8-12k off MSRP. Heck, one dealer was advertizing half off MSRP on a base T&C, a $22k MSRP. The transaction price on my 07 T&C Signature Series was over $11k less than MSRP of $33.8k. So, a T&C Touring with no options and MSRP of ~$29k should sell for under $20k. IMHO, the base T&C with Popular Equipment Group is the best value if you don't need StowNGo or carry 4x8 sheets with the tailgate closed. Should be had for under $15k out the door for a brand new 2007 vehicle.
This is my second minivan as I have a 2005 T&C Touring lease that will be returned soon. I have 38k miles on that van wirth no problems except the front brake pads/rotors I replaced 30k miles. The parts cost $75, rather inexpensive.
#3135 of 3798 Re: Need help. Which minivan would you buy, and why? [aaron_t]
Jul 11, 2007 (11:31 am)
Bargains without a doubt, but be careful because a lot of safety features don't come on those base models. Things like side curtain air bags and stability control, I believe.
We did price an SXT Grand Caravan, saw a left over 2006 for $20.6k, but it lacked the curtain air bags. By the time you added that, the price was just too close to the Sienna.
So you can get a bargain, but you're going to sacrifice something. I wasn't willing to give up those 2 key safety features (SAC and VSC).
Toyota's packages are confusing, but you need a PhD to understand Dodge's.
Also - how can you even tell if a Town & Country is the short wheelbase or long wheelbase? I was so confused I just looked for Dodges because you see Grand in the name.
Sto-n-Go was cool but the seats themselves were not very comfortable. Still, very innovative.
I did check out the 08 interior at the New York show. They had a static display. You'll be able to make the 2nd and 3rd rows face each other, and there's even a small table there you could play cards on.
Leg room is a bit tight but 4 kids could probably squeeze in that space.
Again, though, innovative. Nobody sells more vans. I think the 08 models will make those safety features standard so that should make it easier to shop.
#3136 of 3798 Re: Need help. Which minivan would you buy, and why? [aaron_t]
Jul 11, 2007 (11:45 am)
I will agree that Chrysler is practically blowing out the 07 minivans. If I were in the market, it'd be hard to pass up a Signature Series T&C.
However, everybody in the minivan market is doing some significant discounting. It's just that Chrysler is doing a little more.
And for the Town & Countrys, the "Base" models are the SWB ones. LX and up are LWB, and since Stow N Go is standard on the LWB models, if a 2007 Town & Country doesn't have Stow N Go, it's a SWB model.
#3137 of 3798 Re: Need help. Which minivan would you buy, and why? [jchan2]
Jul 11, 2007 (12:59 pm)
OK, that's why none of the models I considered lacked Sto-n-go. I definitely wanted the long model.
I have seen short ones for $13k, but that's a 4 cylinder bare-bones model I'd avoid even as a rental.
#3138 of 3798 Re: 4 cylinder bare bones model? [ateixeira]
Jul 11, 2007 (2:07 pm)
NO Chrysler T&C has a 4 cylinder engine. The SWB T&C has the 3.3L V6 as STANDARD equipment.
However, the base Caravan SE comes with a 4 cylinder engine but has the 3.3L V6 as optional.
#3139 of 3798 Re: Need help. Which minivan would you buy, and why? [aaron_t]
Jul 11, 2007 (2:12 pm)
You have shown why it is BEST to buy a vehicle when a new design is coming out. NEVER buy a new design the first year.
Toyota now has $ 1500 Rebate on the 2007 Sienna even though the 2008 Sienna will be a carbon copy of the 2007. There was NO rebate when I got my 2006 Sienna.
The ONLY problem at end of a model is finding the model with color and options desired.