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Toyota Sienna, Dodge Caravan, Chevrolet Venture, Mazda MPV, Kia Sedona, Honda Odyssey, Chevrolet Uplander, Nissan Quest, Hyundai Entourage, Van
#3030 of 3798 almost fully loaded comparison
Mar 10, 2007 (7:58 am)
Looks like the T&C loaded at over $43K cost more than the fully loaded FWD Sienna w/ the most expensive option package. Chrysler better re-think their prices on these loaded minivans (and all trim levels) or else they're going to sell a lot fewer of these than they expect. I'm actually disappointed in their pricing. There is no way they should cost more than all the others.
The T&C with the cool Swivel 'n Go seats seems to have the least leg room of most of the minivans. It's hard to tell for sure, but when the seats swivel towards the back, 4 people might not have enough leg room to not have to touch each others legs. Another negative.
Haven't really compared the other levels of trim, however, the T&C base LX at $22,195 plus option package 2, comes to $28,567. I'm interested in the "Top of the Line" at this point. T&C needs to have incentives as soon as they're on sale or/and redo the prices. The prices on their website are not etched in stone. They are estimated prices. And you still have to pay an extra $165 for Light Sandstone Metallic or Clearwater Blue Pearl or $247 for Inferno Red. They are pricing themselves out of the market IMO. Not a good thing if the minivan is their bread and butter. And then you also have to consider if/when Chrysler gets sold, how will that effect quality, service, etc.
The Sienna $41,637 includes:
FWD, 3.5-Liter V6, Limited 7-passenger, 5-Speed, most expensive Option H $5527
Honda Odyssey includes:
Touring with Honda Satellite-Linked Navigation and DVD Rear Entertainment Systems Automatic Transmission (Standard Features)
Base MSRP: $39,095
Destination & Handling: $595
MSRP including selected accessories: $39,690
Nissan Quest includes:
Base MSRP $33,900
Packages and Options
TECHNOLOGY PACKAGE $800
FOLD-AWAY SEAT PACKAGE $750
NAVIGATION AND PAX PACKAGE $2,650
3.5 SE NISSAN DVD ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM $2,000
Destination and Handling $650
Total Configured MSRP $40,750
Hyundai Entourage Limited:
Fully loaded (no NAV available on website) Total MSRP : $32,495
#3031 of 3798 Chrysler Town and Country
Mar 10, 2007 (8:10 am)
Does anyone know how soon the T&C will be at the next few car shows to actually be able to sit in one and check it out carefully, i.e. swivel the seats around to check leg room, see & feel how the reach and comfort level are for the shifter, comfort of 2nd & 3rd row,etc.
Feedback and detailed pictures would be appreciated.
#3032 of 3798 Re: almost fully loaded comparison [carcom2]
Mar 10, 2007 (12:43 pm)
They are pricing themselves out of the market IMO. Not a good thing if the minivan is their bread and butter.
One would think, since Chrysler invented the minivan market, that they'd know how to price out these new vans taking into consideration the competition. It would be nice if they'd price them realistically instead of relying on gimmicks such as rebates!!! But I'm not holding my breath for that to happen!
#3033 of 3798 I'm guessing
Mar 10, 2007 (9:44 pm)
that if you're willing to hold out until November, you'll be able to get 0% financing for 60 months, or $3000 cash back.
The vans look attractive, but the minivan market is not exactly a growing one, and any new customers are going to come either from fleets or converts from other minivans, and not necessarily new minivan shoppers.
#3036 of 3798 The Only Problem Though...
Mar 29, 2007 (7:23 pm)
is that it's limited to 3 channels. If DCX could somehow get Sirius to offer 10 channels, with 3 kids, 3 news, and 2 movie channels, along with 1 finance channel, I'm sure they could move a lot more vans and Chrysler 300s...
#3037 of 3798 Re: Another DC Minivan First... [dennisctc]
Apr 03, 2007 (10:31 am)
Maybe I'm turning into my parents, but my wife and I specifically bought a van ('07 T&C) that DIDN'T have DVD built in. Part of my love of books came from spending hours in the car reading as a kid, and for some reason I just have an intuitive feeling as a parent that I should minimize the amount of time my kids spend staring at a screen. I don't mind videogames nearly as much, since they are at least DOING something interactively.
The Sirius tech is definately cool, and we do have built-in Sirius in our van, but I wouldn't be interested at all in the TV option.
That said, I have wondered for years why they don't make regular car head units that can tune TV stations, but produce audio only? Many, many shows would work just as well with no video like the news, talk shows, and comedies. I don't care about the kids in this respect, I would just like to be able to listen to TV as the driver!
#3038 of 3798 Re: Another DC Minivan First... [perna]
Apr 03, 2007 (1:04 pm)
I once chatted with a engineer at Visteon who designed Rear Seat DVD systems for Visteon (formerly Ford Electronics). He doesn't allow his kids to watch the DVD while traveling around town on short trips. He doesn't get to spend enough time with them, and really values the time he does have with them...so no DVD! It's talk with Dad time!! I admired that in him!!
#3039 of 3798 Big sales drops for Sienna (-23%) and Odyssey (-20%)
Apr 05, 2007 (10:45 am)
Both the Sienna & Odyssey suffered big sales drops in March 2007 versus March 2006: Sienna down 23% and Odyssey down 20%. Do you think this trend will continue?