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Toyota Sienna, Dodge Caravan, Chevrolet Venture, Mazda MPV, Kia Sedona, Honda Odyssey, Chevrolet Uplander, Nissan Quest, Hyundai Entourage, Van
#2795 of 3798 Re: 05 Dodge Grand Caravan SE or 05 Ford Freestar? [97xpresso]
Nov 08, 2006 (3:42 am)
You've hit a nerve here Ford and GM gave up a long time ago on the Minivan market, DCX is at least trying to stay competitive and the 2008 redo better be a home run. Look at Ford for example, They had almost 5 years to at least copy the 1999 Honda Ody, and a name change, new instrument panel and fold in floor rear seat is all they could do?????? I wouldn't even say they copied the Ody, they did the very least they could, counting on rebates and financing to sell Minivans, NOT the product itself. Same for GM and their 10 year old chasis and features!!
#2796 of 3798 Re: Minivan that you can move 3rd row up to 2nd row? [edgecomb]
Nov 08, 2006 (1:12 pm)
A Chevrolet Astro might fit your need. They stopped building them in 2004, but, you might find a good used one. They don't fair well in crash test, but, are built on a proven platform. The two back rows are bench seats. We used to put all three of ours on the second row and fold the back of the third row, or remove the third row bench. However, to remove the bench seats from this van, you'll need to strong guys as they are very very heavy. We had a 1999 AWD Astro and my wife really liked it. We had no problems with it and traded it at 110,000 miles.
#2797 of 3798 Ford Freestar/Mercury Monterey
Nov 11, 2006 (3:35 pm)
I've been in these in auto shows, and I don't really see what's wrong with them, especially if you are in the market for a used one. They can be quite the bargain. You have the fold flat third row, it's ok in the safety department, and CR has the reliability pegged at average.
Then again, I've never driven one so I couldn't draw final conclusions, but I wouldn't just write it off.
I'd say give it a shot, especially if you're going used.
Nov 11, 2006 (5:46 pm)
I went to look at a Spectra 5 today & stumbled on this new mini- mini van called a Kia Ronda, the dealer had just gotten in.
I was stunned by it's good exterior & interior looks, it's safety features and the price.
It is a quite compact, about the size of a Ford Escape, but seemed very spacious inside much more than the Escape. The seats were very comfortable with a great interiour layout. Safety wise it come standard with traction control, ABS, Electronic Stabity control, 6 air bags. With a 2.4L engine it was rated at 22 city & 29 highway and price in the mid $18K range.
It is not on Kia's website & seems to be all but invisible to Google. Does anyone know anything about this rig or was I dreaming?
#2799 of 3798 Re: Ford Freestar/Mercury Monterey [jchan2]
Nov 11, 2006 (6:07 pm)
Have you read the discusions in the Freestar forum? Of course they are "bargins". They are vehicles being discontinued because no one will buy one.
Nov 12, 2006 (10:02 pm)
Saturday I stumbled upon a rather nice looking mini-minivan at the Kia dealer they had just received. Kia is calling its new player the Ronda. The very spacious interior layout was looked great, power is a 2.4L engine, & it had a full suite of safety features including 6 airbags, ABS, traction control, & dynamic stability control all for a little over $18K. My inital impression was very positive.
I had not heard of this model & apparently the is very little info on the US model (tried Goggle). After some hunting I discovered that this car is marketed as the "Carens" in the UK. It is available there with a 2.0 gas or diesel engine. UK reviews, while not bad, are lukewarm when compared to the Mazda5 and the comparable Renault and Vauxal models. Hard not to envy the European's wide selection choices of efficient vehicles! Time will tell how well it can compete in the US.
#2801 of 3798 Re: Kia Ronda [204meca]
Nov 13, 2006 (10:54 am)
Isn't the Kia Ronda really a small station wagon instead of a mini-minivan?
#2803 of 3798 Re: Kia Ronda [hansienna]
Nov 13, 2006 (4:49 pm)
Kia Rondo (Carens in other markets) is a mini-MPV, the closest competitor is the Mazda5. The Rondo will officially start selling early next year in NA market, although Kia took some dealers by surprise by shipping units to the lot last month.
I like the Rondo, clean lines, comfortable, functional, spacious - winner!!
#2804 of 3798 Re: Ford Freestar/Mercury Monterey [97xpresso]
Nov 13, 2006 (7:21 pm)
True. But just because nobody is buying one does not mean they are not necessarily bad minivans.
Although I'd probably avoid getting a brand new one though as the depreciation on those will be STEEP!
Strange... Haven't seen any marketing material on the Rondo, but maybe I'll stumble into it at NAIAS (if I go). Sounds like it has good proportions.