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Toyota Sienna, Dodge Caravan, Chevrolet Venture, Mazda MPV, Kia Sedona, Honda Odyssey, Chevrolet Uplander, Nissan Quest, Hyundai Entourage, Van
#250 of 3798 Re: pricing strategy on '04 MPV ES [jipster]
Jan 16, 2005 (3:35 pm)
Where does that $28,000 plus MSRP come from? Is that adjusted from the sticker MSRP because its a 2004 model? Its been more than 6 years since we bought our last new car, and I'm out of practice. I'm worried that if I aggresively negotiate a low price, then bring up the topic of a trade, they will low ball me on the trade. I guess I just have to threaten to walk under those circumstances... The other thing Edmunds won't let me look up now are the incentives (to customer and dealer) that Mazda is offering on '04s MPVs. Does anyone have a ballpark on this one?
#251 of 3798 Re: Premium vs. regular [steve_]
Jan 17, 2005 (11:34 am)
Interesting links Steve,thanks. It seems many people out there still use premium under the misguided assumption that it is better for their cars...even if their cars don't need premium.
The microeconomics link reminded me of a professor I had in college who said he filled up on regular gas but on special occasions he would top off his tank with a gallon or two of premium as some sort of "treat" for his car. As if his car could recognise the premium and reward him with better performance.Waaaaay back then that was much more common to think along those lines.
Anyhow,given the choice of regular or premium in a vehicle like the Sienna. Now... I'd probably go ahead and use regular without "much"hesitation.
One things for certain..the higher gas prices go...the fewer Sienna owners you'll see at the pumps using premium.
#252 of 3798 labrat3
Jan 17, 2005 (12:31 pm)
see my posting under MPV prices paid thread.
I got virtually the same van for $8000 off MSRP, but had to go with Mazda financing (extra $1000 rebate) which I plan to pay off/refinance in 3 months.
#253 of 3798 Re: labrat3 [rgb2]
Jan 17, 2005 (7:59 pm)
Thanks everyone for the advice. I actually went with another dealership (stopped by on the way to the one I had been bargaining with). They convinced me to stay. I think I could've done better with the deal ($7,000 off MSRP), but I was able to get the trade I wanted after an aborted walk out attempt. The trade in was a WELL used 1998 VW Golf w/ 103,500 miles. I REALLY do not like the stress of buying a vehicle. The misses and I are happy with the deal we got and the razor blue '04 MPV ES is a beauty, and only 20 miles on the odo to boot! Thanks again.
Jan 18, 2005 (11:11 am)
It is usually best to separate the new car deal from the used car trade-in transaction. (I say this after breaking this policy several times myself.) Sometimes you can do better selling the used vehicle yourself or by taking it to CarMax.
#255 of 3798 Re: DCX powertrains [1997montez34]
Jan 18, 2005 (5:17 pm)
Just to play devil's advocate....I was thumbing through the service manual for my 1990 Honda Accord LX and guess what....it recommends 91 octane! In the service manual mind you. This car has almost 200K (it's a baby) and has never seen above 87 octane. Maybe if you want those superbly useless 230HP at 4500RPM or whatever it is you should worry about something other than 87, but I think it's a crock in this case.
Today's cars don't just blindly run the same way regardless of the type of fuel that is put into them. The Sienna will adjust accordingly if you always use 87. Just don't try any drag racing.
Also, if you are using the plainest dirtiest truck stop fuel then no matter what car you are driving is headed to the mechanic with a clogged fuel filter at best. Running 87 is one thing, running crappy questionable gas is another.
#256 of 3798 Re: 87 octane fuel [lastwraith]
Jan 20, 2005 (9:01 am)
In the Denver-Salt Lake City-Wyoming area of the Rocky Mountains, 85 octane is regular unleaded instead of the normal 87 octane at lower altitude.
My 02 T&C LX with 3.3L V6 runs very well with 85 octane all the time. My son uses 85 octane in his 01 Ody EX all the time and the other son used 85 octane in his 02 GC Sport until he moved to Houston where he now uses 87 octane.
#257 of 3798 Re: 87 octane fuel [hansienna]
Jan 20, 2005 (11:41 am)
My mistake, apparently even 85 can be run in certain conditions. Mainly I just wanted to lay to rest the incorrect assumption that Siennas require premium. Thanks for the info though.
#258 of 3798 Re: premium fuel for Sienna? [lastwraith]
Jan 20, 2005 (11:44 am)
Agee that premium is NOT necessary for a Sienna but I would add that postings about Sienna requiring premium is another red herring. The Sienna will run perfectly well with 87 octane (or 85 octane in high altitude areas).
#259 of 3798 First experience with minivans, advice is needed
Feb 04, 2005 (10:01 pm)
Me and my wife are about to buy our fist minivan for our family (3 kids and a dog). Not is't our first minivan but a first car in the States (we just moved from Israel for a few years). We're thinking of buying a used car and after 2-3 years to sale it. Obviously after basic requirements to a car like safty and convenience TOC comes to the top in our case. I mean one of the criterias is to find a car that will lose and cost less. Also it's important which model will be easier to sale. I thought to take a car of 2-3 years since then the temp of depreciation is not so high as in the very beginning but the car is still pretty well.
We're choosing between TownCountry/Caravan MPV and Sedona. I see in the net prices are in a range of 13-15T for year 2003/2004. To my understanding there is no major favorite in this trio (technically speaking) and the single criteria (except for the taste:-) is getting a good deal. Is my thinking correct or I missed some important point?
Your input is really needed.