Minivans - Domestic or Foreign

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What is this discussion about? Toyota Sienna, Dodge Caravan, Chevrolet Venture, Mazda MPV, Kia Sedona, Honda Odyssey, Chevrolet Uplander, Nissan Quest, Hyundai Entourage, Van

#2408 of 3798 Honda added the 3rd row fold into the floor seat in 1999 Odyssey by hansienna

Jun 07, 2006 (4:25 pm)

And calling it the "Magic Seat" was a marketing coup.
     ALL minivans now must include the split 3rd row fold into the floor introduced by Toyota in the 2004 Sienna to be competitive.
     The Power Liftgate introduced by Chrysler in 2001 models was ridiculed by others...but now the others also brag about their power liftgate (either standard or optional).
     When will all minivan makers copy Chrysler's flat fold into the floor 2nd row seats?

#2409 of 3798 Re: Honda added the 3rd row fold into the floor seat in 1999 Odyssey [hansienna] by dennisctc

Jun 08, 2006 (4:04 am)

Replying to: hansienna (Jun 07, 2006 4:25 pm)
When will all minivan makers copy Chrysler's flat fold into the floor 2nd row seats?
 
Nissan for 2008 I've heard. Stow N Go won't be easy to implement without a major chasis redesigns. Will Honda, which uses the same basic platform for Oddy, Ridgeline, MDX and Pilot be able to redesign it for Stow N Go while still using it for the others? It won't be easy for the competition. Will Toyota/Honda/Hyundai which sell far fewer minivans make the investment?
 
Stay Tuned

#2411 of 3798 Re: Good News for DCX Minivans [dennisctc] by hansienna

Jun 08, 2006 (5:06 am)

Replying to: dennisctc (Jun 08, 2006 4:05 am)
Also noticed Kia as a brand is near the bottom of the middle. Since the Kia Rio is tied for first place with Suzuki Aerio in the sub-compact category, which Kia models are bad enough to bring the entire Kia brand so low?
     Toyota motor company with # 2 and # 4 rate much higher than ANY company. Porsche may be # 1, but look at the parent company Volkswagen rated 35 out of 37.
     Glad to see Chrysler doing so well.

#2412 of 3798 Re: Good News for DCX Minivans [dennisctc] by mrblonde49

Jun 08, 2006 (6:49 am)

Replying to: dennisctc (Jun 08, 2006 4:05 am)
Pretty impressive for T&C to be #1 minivan in this competitive space, and American vehicles take the top 3 slots. Shocking, actually

#2413 of 3798 Mini Vans by jimlockey

Jun 08, 2006 (6:52 am)

One of the most important point for a mini van is to have dealer support while traveling nation wide.
 
Second. is safety features.
 
Third, is MPG's. This is one feature that needs improving. What about a diesel?

#2414 of 3798 Re: Good News for DCX Minivans [mrblonde49] by marine2

Jun 08, 2006 (7:09 am)

Replying to: mrblonde49 (Jun 08, 2006 6:49 am)
Great news For Chrysler and General Motors. Bares out what some of us Chrysler/Dodge minivan owners have been saying about our minivans. My 2005 has been to the shop once, last week to check on a recall of a possible crimped hose. That's been it in over 18 months of owning it. Had that checked when I had the oil changed. I was out in less than an hour.
 
Van
1. Chrysler Town & Country
2. GMC Savana
3. Dodge Caravan

#2415 of 3798 Re: Mini Vans [jimlockey] by esto

Jun 08, 2006 (9:55 am)

Replying to: jimlockey (Jun 08, 2006 6:52 am)
Third, is MPG's. This is one feature that needs improving. What about a diesel?
 
What about a hybrid minivan? I claim ignorance on this topic (haven't searched for news stories). Anyone here have any insights? Where would the batteries go?

#2416 of 3798 Re: Good News for DCX Minivans [dennisctc] by hansienna

Jun 08, 2006 (9:58 am)

Replying to: dennisctc (Jun 08, 2006 4:05 am)
In a newspaper version of the article, Bob Lutz was quoted as criticizing "systems where you gather everything under one control and then you are asked to scroll through menu after menu trying to do things".
 
     Bob Lutz succinctly stated how I feel about the Odyssey and Sienna controls. I much prefer DaimlerChrysler controls where the stereo has many controls compared to my Sienna where I have to scroll through the entire menu to adjust bass, treble, balance, fade, etc. Same thing with other controls.
     My 02 T&C LX has 3 separate controls on the dash for the rear wiper and washer with a separate stalk for the front wiper and washer on the steering column while the Sienna puts the controls for the rear wiper/washer on the same stalk as the front wipers/washers.
     The 02 T&C has a separate control for front fan speed plus power on/off with a separate control for turning A/C on and another separate control for recycling the air.
     The Sienna temperature control knob turns on A/C and recycle when it is turned to the extreme left. The recycling can be turned off by turning the knob back to the right but to turn off A/C I must depress another button.
     DaimlerChrysler design is superior to that of either the Sienna or Odyssey...but unfortunately the fine folks of Consumer Reports do not seem to be able to learn the more completely controlled DC system so they bad mouth DC for having "confusing controls".

#2417 of 3798 Re: Honda added the 3rd row fold into the floor seat in 1999 Odyssey [denni by dc_driver

Jun 08, 2006 (11:22 am)

Replying to: dennisctc (Jun 08, 2006 4:04 am)
If adding Stow N Go results in having less comfortable seats in the second row, then Honda should stick with their current setup. I found the second row seats in the 06 T&C Touring model to be much more uncomfrotable vs Toyota/Honda (and Kia).
 
My 06 Odyssey already has storage in the second row under the floor, and we have not even used it yet. For me, I do not see the value in adding even more storage under the floor unless it did not sacrifice seat comfort....
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