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#1937 of 3798 Re: Yes both airbags in front deployed. 2001 caravan [temp409]
Mar 22, 2006 (12:19 pm)
I don't work for Dodge, in fact, I would never own a Dodge or Chrysler product due to the various quality problems we had with their transmissions and suspensions over the years. I don't believe that a large, multinational multibillion dollar corporation has sold millions of minivans with rear seatbelts that don't work, or we would have heard about it by now. I believe you had a lemon, or a faulty seatbelt, but I do not believe all Chrysler products (or vans, what have you) have this problem.
I'm a Honda guy, and will be until they screw up, but for now, this horse is dead, and the further you talk about this, the less credible you seem and instead become just a whiny consumer. It would do you good to give this a rest.
By the way, it seems to me you'd have bought a used van with more safety features than your Kia, since safety is a high priority.
Give the issue a rest for a little while; you've made your point, and by now, EVERYONE has read it two or three times at minimum. It's time to move on.
#1938 of 3798 Feel safe just want other kids to be
Mar 22, 2006 (12:31 pm)
I don't know who to contact to get crash test done on rear occupants of caravan and that would probally cost more money than I have. I don't want to file a lawsuit but mom says I should, we rear ended someone on the On ramp,the wreck was our fault although we didn't get a ticket. I feel safe now in the Kia also, I know what the gen3 buckle looks like there are pics. of it on internet at unsafebelts.com so I watch for it I think thats only in older DaimlerChrysler vehicles haven't seen it in any I test drove. I know her seatbelt failed I took it off of her myself after the wreck which was probally stupid since her neck could of been broke but it was just instinct. And she never said her neck hurt only her head and face. Even if I do chose to file a suit and I win alot of money like some others have, they will not recall, I dont care about the money but it seems to me thats ALL DaimlerChrysler cares about and that makes me mad. I just want them to make it safe, DaimlerChrysler didn't recall when they lost with the gen3 buckle. A recall is what I want my neice and nephew ride in a durango that does the same way they are in carseats now so its not as big of a problem until they are under the shoulder strap and depending on it. My daughter is 12 it should of worked. I don't know for sure what I want to do and I realize I am aggrivating people by just whineing on and on. Sorry! Ill try to change the subject - I love my kia but I dread all of the maintence I may be facing according to the kia problems board here but oh well my Daughter jerks the seatbelts says "LOOK mom they catch the FIRST jerk everytime" she feels safe now and so do I. Just maybe if i whine all over the internet, DaimlerChrysler will see fit to put the same catching mechanism that ALL other van companys do in rear.
#1939 of 3798 Re: Feel safe just want other kids to be [temp409]
Mar 22, 2006 (12:36 pm)
I don't know who to contact to get crash test done on rear occupants of caravan
It should be free, it would just involve time, not money (although for most people, time IS money). Call the area rep for Chrysler. I'd be making the Regional reps know that it will take a lot for a civil suit not to be pursued. We can all sympathize with you, but it won't get you anywhere otherwise.
#1940 of 3798 Re: Feel safe just want other kids to be [temp409]
Mar 22, 2006 (12:44 pm)
Just out of curiousity -
What if Dodge had the same type of locking mechanism as all the other manufacturer's and, after the accident and your daughter's injuries, you jerked on the belt and it worked?
Would you just shrug your shoulders and go on not caring to know why it failed to protect your daughter?
My point is that, at this time, you have no idea if you had a faulty belt or not.
"..my Daughter jerks the seatbelts says "LOOK mom they catch the FIRST jerk everytime" she feels safe now and so do I."
I'm glad you both feel safe in your new van. I hope you enjoy many safe and trouble-free years in it.
#1941 of 3798 Re: Feel safe just want other kids to be [temp409]
Mar 22, 2006 (1:03 pm)
I should, we rear ended someone on the On ramp,the wreck was our fault although we didn't get a ticket"
You rear ended someone on an on ramp, leaving 15-20 foot skidmarks (from another post)? I can't picture how that would happen..
You have other safety issues much more pressing than the seat belts catching.
Have you ever thought maybe it's misplaced rage, since the seat belts issue could have been avoided completely.
Keep your daughter safe. You feel safer in your new van. Drive safer, too...
#1942 of 3798 Ya I'll call
Mar 22, 2006 (1:18 pm)
If -after the wreck when I went to look at van and rear seats caught I would of thought It was only her 1 that was defective and just let go under pressure but NONE of the 4 in rear will catch it was such a OBVIOUS problem and frankly the ones in very rear-3rd row are even worse than middle where she was. Im just thankful to God my boys were not back there thats where they usually ride but since they are 18 and 14 they don't want to go with us much anymore. Hmm so I should call where I bought the van and ask how I can get in touch with a Chrysler rep? That sounds like a good idea to me but then I wonder why so many people have suied over the gen3 if they are willing to fix faulty stuff hmm Ill let you know how it goes only thing is where I just bought the Kia is ALSo where I bought the caravan and I hate to piss them off. I know Ill call a diffent chrysler dealer and ask. Ill let you know what they say.
#1943 of 3798 Ya 3 cars going on the On ramp
Mar 22, 2006 (1:24 pm)
First car stops sudden I think he couldnt see if it was clear cause suv was SO much bigger than his little car and suv kinda started to move to the right and blocked his view so he just stopped at the end of On ramp then Suv was brand new and must of had excellent brakes. Suv stops sudden and we= no anti lock -we skid and hit suv in front of us. I really thought we were going to stop in time but well we didn't. no one in all 3 cars would of been hurt first two drove away after it was all over with cops and stuff She-daughter was the ONLY person hurt. ANYWAY Im going to look in phone book
#1944 of 3798 Re: Ya I'll call [temp409]
Mar 22, 2006 (1:58 pm)
We aren't referring to a defect with "if they catch when you tug". We mean they didn't catch during the crash, AS MANY CARS WITH THE PENDULUM TYPE SEAT BELT (JUST LIKE YOURS) SHOULD DO.
temp409, please, PLEASE, realize that TUGGING THE SEATBELTS DOES NOT PROVE A DARNED THING!!!!!. Don't worry about pissing off your dealer The fact that you arent pursuing legal action (something I don't understand, but that's not my call) should make them very happy.
Ask your dealer (or if you prefer, another local dealer) how to contact Chrysler's regional representative. Make sure you tell them you have a lawyer, that will get you more answers (hopefully).
Keep in mind, many lawsuits on the gen III is no different than any other company. Where a product is sold, a defect is possible, and where a defect is, a lawsuit may be close behind.
*****TUGGING THE SEATBELT PROVES NOTHING WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TYPE OF BELT SYSTEM YOU ARE DEALING WITH*****
#1945 of 3798 Re: Feel safe just want other kids to be [temp409]
Mar 22, 2006 (2:49 pm)
"I don't know who to contact to get crash test done on rear occupants of caravan and that would probally cost more money than I have."
You don't need a crash test. If you are genuinely interested to know what went wrong, then you need to retain an experienced crash reconstructionist and/or forensic engineer with a highway safety background. They can inspect the seatbelts and retractor system and give you a good idea of the failure without any type of crash testing. You can google those terms to find someone in your area. In case you do file a lawsuit, most of these professionals can also serve as an expert witness on your behalf.
For example, these turned up on a quick search. There are dozens more:
#1946 of 3798 thegraduate
Mar 22, 2006 (2:57 pm)
Never mind. I think it's a lost cause. Obviously, belts that don't pass the jerk test don't work. Period. That other system is purely a figment of our imagination.
Am I the only one to recognize the irony here? The DGC owners have completely clammed up on this issue, and the most ardent posters attempting to clear the DGC name are.....Odyssey owners?
Who'da thunk it?