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You are in the Vans & Minivans
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Toyota Sienna, Dodge Caravan, Chevrolet Venture, Mazda MPV, Kia Sedona, Honda Odyssey, Chevrolet Uplander, Nissan Quest, Hyundai Entourage, Van
#1394 of 3798 Re: Aha! [jchan2]
Jan 21, 2006 (3:30 pm)
"if some people don't mind driving a mediocre minivan..."
Mediocre is certainly a subjective term. And is probably the term used frequently by those describing the Honda Ody... who purchased Ford, GM, DCX and Mazda Minivans.
The 2004 Honda Ody we test drove was mediocre in comparison to the Mazda MPV. It's plain boxy exterior left a lot to be desired. I took the Ody on a "spirited" test drive on all the local highway exit ramps...and it performed no better than any other minivan on the market.
The general feeling that I was left with was that it was horribly overrated. Despite being offered roughly $500 under invoice on brand new 2004 Ody I did not feel it was worth it. Even if it had been 4 or 5k under invoice I don't think I would have bought it...as I just thought it to be "mediocre"
#1395 of 3798 To determine real world reliability
Jan 21, 2006 (7:35 pm)
Read in the Edmund's Town Hall Problems Forums for each minivan. Discover the problems the actual owners are having with each minivan.
Don't the owners of a minivan know more about their vehicle than CR, Car and Driver, Forbes, Newsweek, Good Housekeeping, etc?
#1396 of 3798 Re: Aha! [macakava]
Jan 21, 2006 (8:35 pm)
True. But sometimes its hard to ignore the economics- the almost $15,000 difference can be put towards a lot of other stuff- college savings, paying off the Infiniti, paying down the house, etc.
But if the price difference was less than $10,000, I'd probably swing more towards a Sienna.
#1397 of 3798 Re: To determine real world reliability [hansienna]
Jan 21, 2006 (8:35 pm)
and I can tell the GM vans are having a lot of problems, especially the Uplanders for some reason.
#1398 of 3798 Ford axing the minivan?
Jan 22, 2006 (7:16 am)
Depends on the definition. Ford and GM are axing the name "minivan" and calling the same vehicle a "cross-over".
Apparently the Sienna and Odyssey competition is too intense for Ford and GM. (Mitsubishi stopped making minivans many years ago.)
#1399 of 3798 Re: Aha! [jchan2]
Jan 22, 2006 (7:28 am)
I fell as a sucker in 1996 with a huge rebate.
Some/many of us(me included) have had this method of thinking due to our upbringing or culture. But we tend to learn through our life's experiences... that in most cases, you get what you pay for!
#1400 of 3798 With a DC minivan
Jan 22, 2006 (7:30 am)
You get more in a DC minivan than you pay for compared to an overpriced minivan.
#1401 of 3798 Re: Aha! [jipster]
Jan 22, 2006 (7:31 am)
June 2004 minivan comparo C & D results,
1. 2004 Ody
2. 2004 Sienna
3. 2004 Quest
4. 2004 DGC
5. & 6. GM and Ford battling for a spot there
Mazda MPV is no where to be seen - not much balls(ie size) to play with the bigger boys!
#1403 of 3798 Re: To determine real world reliability [hansienna]
Jan 22, 2006 (8:35 am)
Don't the owners of a minivan know more about their vehicle than CR
Doesn't Consumer Reports use, um, consumer reports to determine the reliability of vehicles?