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Jan 07, 2006 (6:54 pm)
Now that we have had our 2005 Honda Odyssey EX-L since April and driving it 9K miles, it seems like a good time to voice a quick opinion.
Overall, we are pleased with the Odyssey. It certainly drives well, comfortably seats its passengers, and provides a relaxing and quiet ride. It has ample storage bins and cup holders along with friendly features such as the 60/40 rear seat. Removing the middle seats last weekend, I was able to easily haul 40 bags of mulch to the house. I had briefly considered purchasing a full size pickup truck when doing research early last year but decided that the Odyssey would carry pretty much any reasonable item that I would be hauling if the need arose. Finally, while it cast a somewhat larger footprint than most vans and seems large when driving in town, its true calling is on a road trip where its comfort, quietness’, and security can be appreciated by its occupants. I am pleased with the purchase but do have a few complaints. Here they are.
1. I have heard it before in this forum but the Odyssey needs a telescoping steering wheel like the Toyota Sienna. Why they haven’t placed one on the Odyssey, I don’t know. The cost can’t be that much. I’m six foot even and while the driver’s side electric seat provides an abundance of positions, my arm length measurements always seems to fall short. Honda….are you listening?
2. The gas door opening latch needs to be raised from it location which is almost at the floor level which requires an unnatural and extreme reach. What were the designers thinking (or not thinking) when they placed it there? I just turned 50 and while my back is in fairly good shape, why force the driver to bend down to release it. Surely, they’ve heard of ergonomics. Honda…..again….are you listening?
3. Living in Florida, the electric seats are rarely used or needed, though I used them this morning for the first time. One would think that their location, down near the floor, one on either side of the bottom storage bin, would be ideal….but its not. For one, it’s another stretch to turn them on (read comment 2 above). However, the main complaint is that they have “come on” a half a dozen times, maybe more since I purchased the car. Of course, the reason they come on is because I accidentally bumped them on which leads me to the third complaint. That being the switch has practically no sound to them when they are toggled. If they were, one would hear which they were switched to another location and turn them back off. The corrective action on this would be to move the switch to a location more at eye level, preferably on the dash.
4. The plastic dash trim on the Odyssey is the same as my wife’s 2002 Honda Accord; easily scratched. Again, Honda has a well deserved reputation for quality so why they continue to use a plastic that is not more stretch resistant doesn’t make sense. Or maybe it does make “cents” as in they are saving a few dollars but taking a hit on customer satisfaction. Honda, do away with the Hyundai-like plastic and install something more suitable for a Honda.
5. Honda needs to be more honest when claiming that the EX-L will achieve 28 MPG under highway condition. The best that I have done is 25 MPG even, driving in Central Florida along the coast; no hills, constantly 75 MPH using cruise control. There are MANY posts on the subject so I won’t add to their thoughts on this subject.
#1372 of 3798 Re: [cindythomas]
Jan 08, 2006 (6:26 am)
Great opinions. Nothing you state is a real mechanical issue. The gas door release is located where most modern cars have theirs. My son-in-law's Toureg has its on the door but that is not very common.
I agree with you concerning seat heater switches but mine have not turned on accidentally.
My highway gas mileage has gotten as high as 27 and should be at the advertised 28 with some more miles on the engine.
#1373 of 3798 Re: [cindythomas]
Jan 08, 2006 (8:18 am)
I could not agree more... I never got better than 23-24 MPG in the highway and 14-17 MPG mixed driving and since I had other issues stated a few of them under "Honda Odyssey vs. Toyota Sienna - 2005+ models" post# 3258, I finally traded in for a much better quality and reliability overall 2006 Toyota Sienna Limited... never again HONDA!!!!
#1374 of 3798 Re: [agnosto]
Jan 08, 2006 (8:36 am)
Mr or Ms Agnosto, how can you make all these reliability claims for your new van when you have had it what, a week or two? Come back here with 50,000 trouble free miles and toot the Toyota horn.
Two of the worse pieces of automotive junk I owned were a Toyota and a Nissan.
#1375 of 3798 Re: [agnosto]
Jan 08, 2006 (8:42 am)
Another consideration would be the numerous class action law suits files against Toyota for run flat problems with the tires on the Sienna XLE Limited. Why would an informed consumer, one such as yourself, who has been so damaged by your Odyssey experience run out to buy an XLE Limited knowing of an inherent flaw? Makes me want to question your veracity concerning your alleged Odyssey problems.
#1376 of 3798 Re: Just purchased 2006 Toyota Sienna Limited fully loaded [agnosto]
Jan 08, 2006 (12:31 pm)
On another note - this points out that often who the salesman is can make or break the deal. I went to Mark Jacobson in September and was treated horribly. Its a long story...
Obviously, they treated you much better. I ended up buying at Fred Anderson. It would be interesting to see which of the two have better service departments, since the sales and service can be completely different for any dealership.
#1377 of 3798 Re: [artgpo]
Jan 08, 2006 (1:04 pm)
But didn't he get the FWD version, which doesn't come with run flats?