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Land Rover Range Rover, SUV
Jul 30, 2008 (10:18 pm)
A very good deal came my way today, at least I hope.
1990 Range Rover Classic, County Edition. It has 102,000 miles on it. A mechanic is selling it because I believe his customer could not pay him for the brake system that was redone.
He has been the mechanic on this vehicle for 4 years. Recent water pump, oil pump, all new brakes, and the head gaskets were replaced a few years ago.
It runs and drives perfectly, and is mostly Land Rover stock
It is in very good condition, and he is asking $1200 for it.
Is this a good deal?
#986 of 1000 Re: Should I? [70ss454_man]
Aug 02, 2008 (9:39 pm)
I think you should buy it for that price. The repairs and upgrades are worth way more than that. 102K is not bad either for a 1990. You can't find a used car like that for the price. It is a classic and will give many more miles but be ready for servicing regularly due to age. Go for it!
#987 of 1000 Rear Entertainment System Clarification Please
Aug 17, 2008 (8:44 pm)
We are looking to purchase a 07 RR Sport HSE. Only one concern... the car in question has a roof mounted Alpine DVD system. Sales person says it was factory installed. From all my research I have not found a roof mounted system. Am I wrong? Or am I not looking in the right place. Also, someone mentioned that if DVD system is after market it will short out the Navigation/electronics. Can anyone shed some light please?
One more observation, from our initial test drive, it seems like the DVD system can only be used with headsets not through speaker system.
Can anyone shed some light please?
#988 of 1000 2007 Range Rover HSE Airbags
Oct 27, 2008 (6:57 pm)
Does anyone have an absolute answer as to the exact airbag configuration of a 2007 or newer RR HSE? The main reason for my purchasing a 2007 was from all the press releases from Land Rover stating that the interior of the vehicle and the airbag system was redesigned and reconfigured. The vehicle supposedly now has new torso (seat deployed) side airbags, a knee airbag for the driver, and "SIDE - CURTAIN AIRBAGS FOR ALL OUTBOARD OCCUPANTS" (1st and 2nd rows).
I have 2 small children and my primary goal in purchasing a new vehicle is to provide them a safe enviornment - especially regarding a side curtain airbag system. I bought this vehicle because I was led to believe by numerous Land Rover press releases and told by my salesman that curtain style airbags replaced the prior tubular design for 1st row and small pillow design for 2nd row passengers.
While looking through a 2008 RR HSE brouchure a year later I noticed a diagram of all the airbags fully deployed in the vehicle. You can clearly see the new torso and drivers knee airbags. Unfortunatly they also show the old tubular style (1st row) and small pillow head airbag for 2nd row. The 2007 brouchure I viewed when buying my vehicle had no such pictures to support the claims of the new system. The tiny pillow style 2nd row airbag is mounted very high and doesn't deploy low enough to offer children the same protection that a curtain style would. WHERE ARE THE CURTAIN STYLE 1st & 2nd row AIRBAGS I WAS PROMISED BY NUMEROUS LAND ROVER PRESS RELEASES AND MY SALESPERSON.
When contacting my dealer I was told that the picture used in the 2008 brouchure was of the old airbag configuration and not accurate. If this is true why does the picture illustrate the NEW torso and drivers kneee airbags?
It's really too bad because the vehicle itself is very nice, but my childrens safety will always come first. I feel the public is definetly being misled on this very important safety feature, and Land Rover still uses misleading verbage in todays brouchures. SHAME ON YOU LAND ROVER. This isn't how you win over customers.
#989 of 1000 Re: 2007 Range Rover HSE Airbags [djt21]
Oct 27, 2008 (9:11 pm)
Your concern for your children's safety is admirable, but you seem to be drawing some unwarranted conclusions about the function and performance of these airbag systems based on inadequate information. If you don't feel safe with your family in a Range Rover, there isn't anything else on the road that could give you the sense of security you are seeking.
Your model year Range Rover was designed by BMW, a car company that has a long and well-deserved reputation for protecting the safety of drivers and passengers in its vehicles. Their customers routinely write to tell the company about surviving accidents that would have caused death or serious injury in any other vehicle because their Bimmers were so well-designed and built. (FWIW, I survived a side impact crash in a BMW - before the advent of side impact air bags - and was able to drive my vehicle to the body shop for repairs. They are that tough.)
Consider the fact that the primary passenger safety system in any vehicle is the seat and shoulder belt system. If your kids are buckled in before you put the truck into gear, you have done the best thing you can do to protect them from harm in th event of an accident. If they are not yet old enough to use seat belts, then they should be belted in a properly secured, second-row car seat. Properly securing your loved ones inside a truck as tall, massive, and well-built as a Range Rover is the best thing you can do for them as a parent.
Second, remember that air bags are only supplemental safety systems. And in the case of side airbags, their primary function is to keep arms and heads inside the vehicle in the event of a side impact, and to prevent - to the extent possible - debris or other objects from entering a window. They also serve to protect against harm from impact with hard surfaces inside the truck. They were never intended to protect occupants from absorbing the kinetic forces of the initial impact the way that the steel frame and crush zones of the vehicle will. By belting your kids in properly, you are keeping them away from the exterior frame and body members that will absorb and re-direct the forces of a crash. You will also keep them away from the hard surfaces inside that can cause harm from secondary impacts. Isolation = safety.
Third, any safety system, like an air bag system, is one of the most intensively engineered and tested components of a vehicle. The risk of liability suits prompts all automakers to do their best to assure that these systems provide the protection that consumers are expecting. On the face of it, there is nothing to say that a full curtain air bag provides a measurably greater benefit than a tubular system.
Fourth, there may be another logical explanation for why the marketing materials showed one type of system and the production vehicle has a slightly different one installed. These are very complicated devices and only a limited number of companies make them. Considerations of price, availability, integration with other interior components such as seats and interior moldings, and regulatory approvals all affect the final configuration of the vehicle. The fact remains that you are driving a vehicle that has a side-impact supplemental restraint system. That's a lot more than many other manufacturers offer.
Please, before suggesting that Land Rover failed to serve your needs as a customer, go back to your dealer and have someone who knows the vehicle show you the location of the air bags in your truck. You're driving one of the safest vehicles on the planet and you're a good parent.
#990 of 1000 Re: 2007 Range Rover HSE Airbags [pfolk]
Oct 28, 2008 (8:46 am)
Your statements are absolutely correct. The current RR was designed in the mid 90's by BMW with (at the time) state of the art design and safety standards. And yes, my children are always properly secured in the vehicle with Britax car seats.
But you can't ignore the facts. Most newer vehicles that have a head protection system (even the RR sport) use curtain style airbags for 1st & 2nd rows. And I really wouldn't care if RR continued with the original tube and pillow style system, I simply would have chosen to purchase a different vehicle that offered what some safety experts consider to be a safer system, such as a full curtain airbag. My only issue lies with how Land Rover irresponsibly promoted this as a redesign of the safety airbags to INCLUDE NEW CURTAIN AIRBAGS FOR BOTH ROWS. This is false and misleading.
No matter how well engineered a RR is and how safe it is in many other regards I was SIMPLY MISLED by the company when they put in writing in their 2007 brouchure that the RR had a new curtain style airbag system for head protection. I was also MISLED when the sales rep told me the same thing upon purchasing the vehicle.
I think the RR is a great vehicle, and as you said very, very safe and superior to other vehicles in many regards. But accidents DO happen and head protection for small children (or anyone for that matter) is incredibly important to ME, maybe not yourself. The depicted pillow style airbag in the 2nd row is very small, mounted high and does not extend low enough to protect young children and also leaves a great deal of the back window exposed where debris could enter through the window. Look at the picture of the so called "curtain style" airbags deployed in a 2008 RR brouchure and then tell me if you would'nt rather have your children in a vehicle with an actual curtain style system.
Upon contacting Land Rover North Americas corporate offices via their email correspondence, I was told that the illustration in brouchures are correct and the airbags depicted are accurate. THIS IS NOT what a 1st & 2nd ROW CURTAIN AIRBAG looks like.
#991 of 1000 Re: range rover 06 issues - help [jdowds]
Dec 24, 2008 (7:33 pm)
oh wow. ya i hadnt said anything to the dealership yet but i just bought a used 03 range rover and every once in a while when i go to unlock/get in my car there is a really high pitch squealing noise that i cant even figure out exactly where it comes from. sometimes it even cuts out if i restart the engine firmly. also sometimes it comes on randomly when im driving, but very rarely as opposed to when i unlock/enter the vehicle. i was wondering what it was and it sounds like this may be the same issue as with your 03 range. so i will probably mention these small fans to them when i tell them about the issue...also, i do not have any warranty that would likely cover these parts (i dont know if u did) but do u think it will be expensive to have them replaced? (i am well aware by now how much landrover likes to nickel and dime you for vehicle servicing). thanks so much for your help.
#992 of 1000 06 Range Rover HELP NEEDED
Mar 01, 2009 (9:06 pm)
1. any one know of a custom subwoofer box for the 2006 Range Rover Supercharged? I will appreciate any info/lead or where to purchase.
2. Also any success stories re aftermarket audio (adding subs, amps, speakers etc) - please kindly give some details of successes achieved and how (products and installation details and help).
3. Lastly any issues and/or benefits to installing suede headliners?
Kindly help a new Range Lover out. PM me if you wish. Thanks a lot for your help.
#993 of 1000 2003 Range Rover - ? re: possible purchase
May 19, 2009 (6:39 pm)
Hi there -
Am thinking of purchasing a 03 RR - HSE w/ 90,000 mi. The dealer is asking $20,000 - says it has a rear main seal leaks which he says is common in RR. He also just replaced one of he air suspension balloons. My concern is the leak and any possible problems other than the rear main seal.
The dealer purchased this at an auction... and apparently someone put about 80,000 mi on it during the past 2 yrs. = ???
I'm hoping that someone might have some ideas... and of, course, also about the appropriateness of the price.