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Re: GMC door lock and factory alarm [cabover30] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Mar 30, 2009 (8:48 am)
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Replying to: cabover30 (Mar 29, 2009 9:15 pm)

I doubt the lock is good anymore. Have you carefully examined the outside of the door. Sometimes they actually cut the lock out--that is, enlarge the hole in the door itself.
 
Professional thieves don't care about alarms. Alarms are pretty much a waste of money IMO, They only discourage the most amateurish of thieves/vandals and are more suited to preventing theft of the entire car rather than anything within it. The pros can smash and grab before anybody can blink their eyes. Speed is their ally and your alarm does not deter them. If a professional thief wants your entire car, even chaining it to the street light will not stop them. C'est la vie.
 
If you want to tackle this job yourself, I'd suggest you subscribe to www.alldatadiy.com and get instructions on removing the panel and extracting the bits and pieces of the lock. Or if this seems intimidating, have a professional locksmith take care of it for you. Doesn't your insurance cover any of this?
 
You might also check your public library for a workshop manual, or eBay is often a good source for an instruction book. Don't by the CD, get a printed book.
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Re: DIY dent removal advice needed [prithis] by obyone
Mar 31, 2009 (12:37 pm)
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Replying to: prithis (Mar 15, 2009 9:17 am)

Agreed. I doubt the the lock is any good at this point. You will need a locksmith to rekey the new cylinder plus I suspect there will be some minor body work where the door lock got punched in. As far as removing the door panel it's not difficult. Remove couple of screws, lift and pull off. If you need the exact location of the screws, post here and I'll look it up. If memory serves me correctly there are only two or three max screws to remove.
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Re: GMC door lock and factory alarm [Mr_Shiftright] by bigfur
Apr 01, 2009 (3:44 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Mar 30, 2009 8:48 am)

Odds are you wont be able to get the lock back in the door. The thief in order to get the lock into the door would have had to make the hole bigger which means it wont fit now. The alarm wont go off unless it was locked with the key fob and unlocked from the inside lock slide. The thief used the rod in the door to fool the system into thinking it was a key that opened the door, Thats why it didnt go off.
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Simple fix for a small dent scratch? by mvaussies
Jun 08, 2009 (5:10 am)
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I'm looking for a fairly simple way to fix for (future rust reasons) a smallish dent/scratch not my door. I keep my vehicles for awhile. It is not too bad, & the thing is, it will end up under a vinyl stick on business sign. But I'm thinking I should seal it up well before burying it under the sign.
 
Should I what? Sand area down through rust, prime, rubbery rust paint? then simple spraycan paint, how to wait to put sign on? etc.?
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Re: Simple fix for a small dent scratch? [mvaussies] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jun 08, 2009 (7:06 am)
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Replying to: mvaussies (Jun 08, 2009 5:10 am)

I wouldn't try to paint it or sand it, no. Just touch up the bare metal spots with a touch-up stick and then when you have the time/money, get it professionally redone.
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info by jwjackson
Jun 17, 2009 (11:40 pm)
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I am currently deployed to Iraq with the texas army national guard. When i get home i wanted to get into auto body repair. I found a school that when i finish will give me $3500 worth of tools plus an AAS in auto body repair. The military will pay for it completely, but was told that most businesses dont want to hire someone who went to school for it. Apparently they would have to train me the way that they want. Does anyone know if this is true. Any advise on wether or not i should go to the school or try to become someones apprentice would also be very welcome. Thanks
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Re: info [jwjackson] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jun 18, 2009 (9:53 am)
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Replying to: jwjackson (Jun 17, 2009 11:40 pm)

They may wish to re-train you but if you are asking is it better to go into a shop with zero experience and ask for a job, or is it better to have a trade school certificate, I think the answer is obvious.
 
You might have a friend back home here ask around some hi-end body shops and see what they say. My impression is that there is a severe shortage for skilled people with an attitude to perform, and with your motivation both to perform successfully in the Guard overseas, and to get an AAS, a shop would be foolish to turn you down.
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Re: info [jwjackson] by obyone
Jun 18, 2009 (11:12 am)
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Replying to: jwjackson (Jun 17, 2009 11:40 pm)

I have two friends that own autobody shops. One thing I've noticed over the years is that they will give anyone with a good attitude a chance whether or not they have experience. The quickest way to get on their bad side is when receiving instructions on how to do something replying with "we learned to do it this way in school". While they don't mind if you suggest something, they absolutely hate it when being told by some rookie what they learned in school from an instructor that couldn't hack the business.
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Re: info [obyone] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jun 18, 2009 (4:59 pm)
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Replying to: obyone (Jun 18, 2009 11:12 am)

Well sure, you don't want to walk in with a chip on your shoulder; on the other hand, you don't want to start work as a floor sweeper either, the kid who "knows nothing".
 
If nothing else, the school will teach you the proper use of tools and some common sense. Even if you learned nothing more than how not to break tools and how not to destroy a car's body, that's a good start.
 
Besides, school's a good way to see if you even like this kind of work.
 
I'd also inquire as to the school's placement service and by all means talk to graduates. If the school won't help you place, and won't let you talk to graduates, that's not a good sign in my opinion.
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Re: info [jwjackson] by bigfur
Jun 24, 2009 (6:27 am)
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Replying to: jwjackson (Jun 17, 2009 11:40 pm)

If you go into a body shop with no experience and are not in a program to learn auto body repair they will laugh you right outta the shop. I was in a course sponsored by GM a few years ago that included having to be in an apprenticeship program, the shop will try to "train" you their way of doing things. You need a basic understanding of the things that all techs do that dont ever change and then each shop will show you their way of doing things. The old timers in the business are called journeymen for a reason, they have been to five to ten shops in the thirty years. They have the basics down and just have to learn the paperwork and other system things that each company does. With out a doubt go to school to learn the basics and go from there.

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