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rusting on my honda by prelude884ws
Aug 22, 2008 (7:24 pm)
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i just got a 88 honda prelude. there is rusting at the driver side rear quarter panel where the main frame meets the rear bumper and on the passanger side front and rear quarter panel now. some are easy to fix but the ones on the rear quarter panels are a bit harder, because they are actually almost holes. so any good ideas on how to fix it. i do my own work on vehicles since its cheaper but i just want to know the best way.
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Re: rusting on my honda [prelude884ws] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Aug 23, 2008 (6:56 am)
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Replying to: prelude884ws (Aug 22, 2008 7:24 pm)

You have to find used panels from a wrecking yard, cut out your old rust and weld in the new cleaned up panels. Or if you are good with a torch, weld on an entire rear clip from a donor car.
 
Rust never sleeps. You have to surgically remove it or you are wasting your time with fillers, cover-ups, etc.
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Re: rusting on my honda [Mr_Shiftright] by bigfur
Aug 26, 2008 (4:09 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Aug 23, 2008 6:56 am)

Listen to Shifty...hes dead on, although i dont agree totally with the clipping a car. (bigger pain in the rear then its worth) Find a clean quarter cut out the rusted out area and probably about four inches either side of it to get the rust you cant see, and weld in the new piece.
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Re: rusting on my honda [bigfur] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Aug 26, 2008 (4:21 pm)
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Replying to: bigfur (Aug 26, 2008 4:09 pm)

Yeah clipping is pretty drastic and only for a car that has so much rust that sectioning won't cut it.
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I asked this before... by oldfarmer50
Aug 28, 2008 (1:41 pm)
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Will regular washing at an automatic car wash do and harm to the paint?
 
I ask this because a woman at work has a car that is identical to mine. I hand wash and she almost always uses the local automatic wash. I noticed some really bad swirls in the paint on her hood while mine is still like a mirror.
 
Granted her car is two years older than mine but I wonder if the automatic wash did that.
 
What do the experts say?
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Re: I asked this before... [oldfarmer50] by tallman1
Aug 28, 2008 (2:43 pm)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Aug 28, 2008 1:41 pm)

I can pretty much guarantee you that the swirl marks came from the car wash. Hand washing is the only way to go if you want to really protect your paint.
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Re: I asked this before... [oldfarmer50] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Aug 28, 2008 (3:53 pm)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Aug 28, 2008 1:41 pm)

Probably came from drying the car, not washing it.
 
Even hand-washing can produce swirls if you aren't careful. As most of you know, it's a good idea before you even touch the car to run water over it to "float" as much debris off as you can, prior to applying a wash mitt or whatever you use.
 
Beware also of those high-pressure hoses in coin-op car washes. If held too close, they can blast off trim pieces and peel paint like an onion.
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Re: I asked this before... [Mr_Shiftright] by oldfarmer50
Aug 29, 2008 (2:20 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Aug 28, 2008 3:53 pm)

"...Beware also those high pressure hoses in coin-op car washes..."
 
I remember a previous poster warning that the hand brush in those washes can contain dirt which can scratch paint also.
 
I've always felt uncomfortable taking my car into those high pressure "touchless" washes as well. Our school district recently installed one to wash the buses and the water is blasting the lettering off the sides of the vehicles. That can't be doing the paint any good either.
 
Guess I'll just stick with my wash mitt and microfiber towels.
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Body Repair Question by ndelc
Sep 19, 2008 (10:59 am)
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I'm looking at buying a 2000 Honda Civic. It is in unbelievable condition (only 35,000 miles!), but it was involved in an accident in 2001. The seller showed me the repair receipt, and one of the items listed was "Frame/Unibody Repair and Setup" at a cost of $55.00. Is that anything to be concerned about? I got a Carfax report on it, and the accident is listed but under "Structural/Frame Damage Check" it says "no issues reported". I would guess that any frame damage would cost more than $55.00 to repair, wouldn't it? The entire repair bill came to about $1,200 and most of that was to repair the front bumper and headlight.
 
Thanks for any advice!
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Re: Body Repair Question [ndelc] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Sep 19, 2008 (11:25 am)
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Replying to: ndelc (Sep 19, 2008 10:59 am)

They probably put it on the frame machine and shot it with a laser to see if the unibody was bent. Obviously they didn't have to do much straighening by pulling. I'd guess it was all sheet metal work.
 
You can cause $1,200 damage on a modern car with a golf ball.

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