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Re: Repair Bumper or Replace [Mr_Shiftright] by bigfur
Aug 13, 2009 (3:14 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Aug 10, 2009 7:07 am)

With a plastic bumper done worry about the repair, a good shop will fix it to the point you cant tell a new one from a repaired one. Go the cheaper route!
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hail damage... by caselynn26
Aug 19, 2009 (8:29 pm)
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I took my car to two different body shops, one my prefferred who I know to reputable, the other the insurance's preferred shop, I recieved two estimates both stated that PDR would not work well on this much damage. The claims person, was very irritated with the estimates (they were within sixy dollars of each other), sent an adjuster out who is claiming it can all be PDR. Offering 1200.00 for over 3000.00 damage. Had considered not getting fixed, is there something I can do to get them closer to the estimates?
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Re: hail damage... [caselynn26] by obyone
Aug 20, 2009 (3:46 am)
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Replying to: caselynn26 (Aug 19, 2009 8:29 pm)

Does the insurance company have a preferred PDR shop? I'm thinking what they would say if the PDR shop said they couldn't do it. And if there is that much damage I seriously doubt that the PDR shop would do it for $1200.
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Re: hail damage... [obyone] by caselynn26
Aug 20, 2009 (3:16 pm)
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Replying to: obyone (Aug 20, 2009 3:46 am)

there preffered shop quoted, 3100.
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Re: hail damage... [caselynn26] by obyone
Aug 20, 2009 (9:06 pm)
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Replying to: caselynn26 (Aug 20, 2009 3:16 pm)

Since the adjuster believes that PDR will work why not take it to a PDR shop and get a quote. Just make sure it's one that the insurance company recommends. They may surprise you by telling the adjuster that they can't do it. Most shops won't quote on a job they can't do. Good ones anyway.
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Re: hail damage... [obyone] by bigfur
Sep 02, 2009 (5:54 am)
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Replying to: obyone (Aug 20, 2009 9:06 pm)

Here is the fun part about insurance agents and adjusters...they arent the one fixing the car!!! In minnesota about ten years ago or so we had a major hail storm during rush hour. Alot of insurance companies wanted to PDR the cars...as body techs we looked at the estimates and made the company do the repair right. PDR works great for a door ding or two...when you have a whole car peppered with hail dont ever PDR it as the clear coat will end up with tiny cracks and will eventually come off and the car will start to rust.
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Water stains by jwbooth
Sep 04, 2009 (5:33 am)
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I have a 2 month old black Acura TL.
 
Sprinklers have twice left water on the car, and I'm in the Nevada summer climate of about 100 degrees.
 
I wasn't aware previously of the problems of water stains.
 
I've been researching this on the web, and have found various contradictory suggestions on how to deal with this.
 
Using Meguar's products (from Meguar site) - clay.
 
Then I read don't use clay. Don't try to rub it with microfiber towel.
 
Use white vinegar. Use 1/2 distilled water, 1/2 white vinegar. Use 4 part water, 1 part white vinegar.
 
Have a professional detailer work on it.
 
Please help. Two main issues:
 
1) How would you deal with getting rid of water stains?
 
2) What can I do for the future? Was planning to drive up north, including Oregon and Washington where its raining/misting all fall/winter.
How do people in rainy areas deal with keeping their cars water spot free?
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Re: Water stains [jwbooth] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Sep 04, 2009 (8:08 am)
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Replying to: jwbooth (Sep 04, 2009 5:33 am)

I think that before I did anything drastic (or abrasive) I'd try some of those "instant detailer" products that you spray and wipe with a soft cloth. The stubbornness of the stain depends a lot on the minerals in the water, and that will vary place to place. The water in my area is "hard" and mineralized but a quick wipe of my dark green paint gets the sprinkler stains off.
 
I think clay is overkill for water spots, as it a professional detailer---both would be last resorts IMO.
 
As for any "home remedies", which might work just fine, be sure to test them out on the bottom portion of a rocker panel or bumper before you slather any household product on your car.
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Re: Water stains [jwbooth] by tallman1
Sep 04, 2009 (9:00 am)
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Replying to: jwbooth (Sep 04, 2009 5:33 am)

As a resident of Washington state, I have some experience with water.
 
Actually, there is a difference between water that falls from the sky and water that comes from a hose or sprinkler. Rainwater around here rarely causes any spotting that won't come out when you wash your car. So you can relax when you come to visit. Of course, EVERYTHING shows up on a black car.
 
As Shifty says, hard water from a hose or sprinkler can cause spotting. I recently had some experience with this in the eastern part of the state where the water is harder than here in the west. I parked in my in-laws' driveway and their sprinklers caught the fender of my car. This was non-potable irrigation water. Ugh. The stains didn't come out after multiple washings but they did come out when I did my annual detailing. That included clay and applying a high quality paint sealant with an orbital. I really didn't pay attention to which step did the job.
 
IMHO, if you wash the car so that there is no loose dirt or dust, you shouldn't have any trouble with clay or wiping the paint with a microfiber cloth. A fine polish should also do the trick.
 
Finally, (and obviously) if you wash your car and dry it right away, water spots will not form. When the sprinklers get you and that water dries in the sun, you'll get spots.
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Clearcoat Failure by oldfarmer50
Sep 12, 2009 (3:05 pm)
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I've been noticing a number of cars with what looks to be clearcoat failure. This appears to be an area of faded paint surrounded by a hazy border. It looks terrible.
 
What's the main cause of this? More importantly, what can be done to protect paint from the clearcoat breaking down?
 
I wonder if certain car brands or colors are more likely to have this happen.

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