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#9 of 6821 Heating Up by jblaze13 Dec 14, 2001 (8:56 am)
This segment is definitely heating up. Between this, the Highlander, and the Nissan X-trail. It ought to be good. If Nissan brings the X-trail or some soon to be mentioned car based SUV to the U.S. Honda seems to have the third row seating advantage. Replies to this message: duke_wa (Mar 19, 2005 4:31 pm)
#10 of 6821 Rear Window by 5greyhounds Dec 14, 2001 (9:51 am)
I would like to see a rear window like the 4Runner. That kind of window adds so much to the ventilation and utility of an SUV. On top of that my dogs like to stick their heads out the rear window. Replies to this message: aceh (Sep 25, 2004 6:43 pm) qbrozen (Sep 27, 2004 9:36 am) aceh (Sep 27, 2004 12:59 pm)
#11 of 6821 It's a rendering for God's Sake... by bimmer4me Dec 14, 2001 (11:06 am)
Someone was complaining of the cheap interior...have you sat in one, I don't think so.
#12 of 6821 by varmit Dec 14, 2001 (11:14 am)
I was thinking the same thing. =) There's supposed to be one at the Detroit Auto Show, but I have to wonder if it'll be another concept. Like the 7/8ths model they showed for the MD-X. HondaSUV.com (AKA CR-V IX) has opened a new forum for the Pilot. The CR-V IX has long been the most popular and useful on-line resource for the CR-V. Check it out. The more users they attract the better the information that gets published there.
#13 of 6821 Important question by varmit Dec 14, 2001 (12:19 pm)
Are the Pilot's cockpit doors reinforced?
#14 of 6821 Ody-Pilot by sailing216 Dec 14, 2001 (1:07 pm)
The interior sketches are really similar to the Ody, but with a center console from a MDX. Exterior dimensions look on par to the Ody, expecially the back and wheel overhangs. Obviously these are just sketches, but it looks alot bigger than an MDX, and borrowing the dash from the Ody is a price saving concept. IMO, A AWD Ody on stilts, lower roofline, and a front end crossed between CRV and MDX. Fills the void left of large AWD minivan with a SUV image. It would fit the pricing of a base starting close to an EX Ody (26k) and going close to a base MDX (34k). Not far from Detroit, so looks like a road trip(waiting for a car to die to jump on the fun waiting list for an MDX--maybe pilot by then). Honda heard us, love the Ody and 3rd magic seat (sorry Highlander), Mdx is nice but pricy, SUV image over Minivan--the void has been filled.
#15 of 6821 Not holding my breath by canadacraig Dec 14, 2001 (1:26 pm)
About a year ago I traded in my 1998 Mercedes-Benz ML320 for a brand new Acura MDX. It was the WORST mistake I ever made. [well - at least as far a buying a vehicle is concerned] The MDX was very nice - except for one thing. It was HORRIBLY UNCOMFORTABLE. I sold it [privately] 2 months after I bought it. The problem?? The SEAT. All Acura's and Honda's that have side-impact airbags [I've discovered] are [I find] VERY uncomfortable. The airbags are built into the side of the seat. This does two things. First - the 'wing' or 'side-bolster' [or whatever it's called] that houses the airbag is MUCH harder then the side without the airbag. That harder side forces a person [who has a wider-than-usual body] to twist towards the softer side - putting his body out of alignment. The seat is ALSO narrower. [is that a word??] This is necessary because there has to be space between the seat AND the door for the airbag to inflate. What a guy [like me] who is big and WIDE [6'3" and about 250 lbs] ends up feeling is that he is sitting in a seat made for a child. [an awkwardly shaped child - at that] My mom owns an Acura TL Type S and the seat is exactly the same. [in other words - just as UNcomfortable]   I have owned LOTS of Honda's and Acura's in my life. I still own my 1991 NSX. I never had this problem before Honda started installing side-impact airbags. In fact - I think my NSX is one of the MOST comfortable cars I've ever owned.   Honda and Acura [like most other car companies] have ALSO shortened the seat bottoms. [the part you actually SIT on] I don't know WHY this is happening. I think it's a mistake. Chrysler is particularily 'bad' when it comes to this. Maybe 'they' want people to THINK there is more leg room than there really is - I don't know. Perhaps the price of foam-rubber has gone through the roof. Your guess is as good as mine.   IF you're a smaller person AND/OR a 'narrow' bodied person - you probably won't know what I'm talking about. If you're comfortable sitting in your side-impact airbag equipt Honda or Acura - well - good for you. BUT I can't help but wonder IF Honda has EVER walked through a typical Walmart in a typcial U.S or Canadian city. Perhaps they should. Then maybe - JUST MAYBE - they'll come to realize that MOST people are NOT 'skinny little things'.   I hope the new 'Pilot' brings Honda/Acura BACK to the good old days when they DID make a VERY comfortable 'car'. [even for 'us' big guys]   Craig!! :o) Replies to this message: solo (Feb 06, 2007 12:23 am)
#16 of 6821 Re: Seats and airbags by maxintosh Dec 14, 2001 (2:26 pm)
Plenty of manufacturers can make comfortable seats with side-impact airbags installed in them. Personally, I think door-installed side airbags are stupid. (a) they explode right into your arm (OUCH!), and (b) your seat has to be in the right position for them to be effective.   We own three cars with seat-mounted side impact airbags. An Audi A6, and Audi A4, and a Toyota Highlander. I've also sat in a new Passat and Volkswagen GTI which had seat-mounted airbags. All have EXTREMELY comfortable seats with long seat cushions.   It's all about design. My friend has a Honda Civic with the side-airbags, and the seats aren't too bad.
#17 of 6821 Pricing by robertsmx Dec 14, 2001 (3:41 pm)
I've a feeling that Honda is going to deliver a 3-trim level lineup priced from about $25K to $32K (equipped with leather, RES, NAV etc.) and that fills the void between CRV and MDX, pretty nicely.
#18 of 6821 4WD Low Range?? by rsholland Dec 14, 2001 (4:45 pm)
Think it will show up with this feature? So far everything I've read indicates it won't have a Low Range. I hope I'm wrong.   This vehicle has to compete, not only for Highlander customers, but also 4-Runner, Explorer, Grand Cherokee, Durango, etc.—plus Passport customers. Many of these folks want and/or need a Low Range.   Bob

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