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#6810 of 6821 Re: VSA, the "safety system", will kill people ! [ralphuco] by rodut Nov 10, 2008 (4:27 pm)
Replying to: ralphuco (Nov 10, 2008 12:52 pm) No I didn't do any study. Actually I would say that no study is needed to state that any kind of electrical device will break sooner or later, especially fancy computer chips. If you add huge thermal cycles, humidity cycles, vibrations, shocks, etc etc etc ... the picture is grim.   I remember some Toyota Sequoia owners complaining that they had landed in the ditch immediately after hitting a big snow bank with the right side wheels. They said that the Stability System sensed the sudden variation of the right side wheels speed, thought that the SUV was skidding, applied the brakes on one side, and that sent the SUV in the ditch. That triggered my idea about a bad wheel sensor sending the wrong information to the computer and triggering the computer decision to steer the car even if actually no skidding had happened.   I was pretty passionate about this subject in 2006 after these systems were installed on the Pilots because I was planning to buy one, and was hoping to be able to have one without the electronic marvel on it. But now the cause is lost, I own a 2008 Pilot with the crap on it, so emotionally I am next to you and will follow what will happen in the future.   My hope is that the VSA OFF switch (at the left side of the dash) can be wired such as it permanently disables the VSA. Now it always defaults to ON when you start the car, so you have to push it each time you start the car to turn VSA OFF. If you can't sleep because of it, just push the button each time you start the car. Or wait for the system to malfunction for the 1st time. If you are alive after that, you will find a way to wire OFF that switch !   The trouble with this technological marvels is not that we have to pay for them. I would gladly pay for these marvels if I could kindly put them in garbage immediately after buying them. The real trouble is that often after we buy them, we are stuck with them !!!   Cheers Replies to this message: alexp79 (Jan 14, 2009 7:13 am)
#6811 of 6821 Re: VSA, the "safety system", will kill people ! [rodut] by alexp79 Jan 14, 2009 (7:13 am)
Replying to: rodut (Nov 10, 2008 4:27 pm) Hello everyone, please read my case, posted under Honda Accord forum:   Just wonder if any body has experienced any issues with VSA system. Yesterday, while driving on an interstate my car increased my normal braking so bad that the car completely stopped on a winter road, causing the cars behind me to almost hit me. I wasn't able to accelerate right away so I shut the engine off and back on, then I could release the brakes. It happened a second time 2 miles ahead. This was pretty annoying, scary and dangerous!. The car is now at the shop, I'm waiting for the dealer's call to see what they found..    Honda's website (http://corporate.honda.com/press/article.aspx?id=4110 ) reads:    "Another key VSA function is recognizing emergency braking situations and almost instantly applying added braking force. This brake assist feature is controlled by a special logic in the system that determines when the pedal stroke and speed exceed a typical range - as they would in a panic stop...VSA is calibrated to function in a near-transparent manner, and in many cases a driver will not even be aware of its operation."    Well, these were not "panic stops" at all! and I was very aware of its operation so was the people driving behind me.    Any thoughts?    Honda Accord Coupe 2008-V6 AT5
#6812 of 6821 Re: boug985..clear coat [pchiu] by masoudm Jan 26, 2009 (5:47 am)
Replying to: pchiu (Jul 12, 2002 11:28 am) I just purchased Honda Pilot 09 Grand Touring,and the salesman insisted to buy the ARMORALL paint and leather protection for $444.00,and then he handed me few packages of the product also.Now they are applying it to the car,and he said i never need to do any waxing ever again,and the paint is protected from acid rain,bird droppings,etc. This morning i left him a msg.to hold off,and the purchase happened at late hours of last night.In addition they are trying to sell me extended warranty for 7 years or 100k.miles whichever comes first,and if i don't use the warranty then they pay me back in full it is $1600.00 What do you think? Replies to this message: bigdadi118 (Jan 26, 2009 7:38 am) kipk (Jan 27, 2009 3:00 am)
#6813 of 6821 Re: boug985..clear coat [masoudm] by bigdadi118 Jan 26, 2009 (7:38 am)
Replying to: masoudm (Jan 26, 2009 5:47 am) You can buy online at much cheaper price re Honda Care Extended Warranty, except you're in a couple states (CA is one) that prohibit it.   All those undercoat, alarm, paint sealants are money making machines for dealers.
#6814 of 6821 Re: boug985..clear coat [masoudm] by kipk Jan 27, 2009 (3:00 am)
Replying to: masoudm (Jan 26, 2009 5:47 am) I believe in extended warranties for modern cars. There are just too many things that can go wrong, and expensive to fix. We have used the EW on both our Pilot and CR-V.   However I agree with bigdadi. All the add on items are money makers for dealers.   $1600 seems way too high for an Extended warranty. That price can be negotiated to something less than $1000. If not find another dealer.   Mequires [SP] products are used by "Classic Car" people on their show cars. They make a real good leather cleaner/protector, and it can be purchased at Walmart and auto stores for less than $10. Meguires also makes real good cleaners,Waxes, polishes,and other compounds to protect the paint and can be purchased for less than 10 bucks.   Another product that works good for us is "Nu Finish". Goes on and off easy and last (beads water) a long time. Again, Walmart or most any auto store.   Car sales are in a slump right now. That dealer should be more than happy to negotiate the EW with you. If not, find another dealer.   Best deals on cars are generally found by negotiating thru the dealer's internet sales.   You can use Edmunds for that. They will tell you the dealers nearest you that have internet capabilities and an internet manager. Get their prices and buy from the lowest bidder. You can get it serviced at any Honda dealer.   Kip
#6815 of 6821 Spare Key for my wallet by kgrealish Mar 01, 2009 (12:21 pm)
I just bought a 2009 Pilot and love it. Over the years, I've formed the habit of keeping a spare key in my wallet (having been trained by my own forgetfulness ...). Just stopped by home depot and was informed that they couldn't make a spare because they didn't have any blanks and they suggested that I'd have to go to the dealer. My question is whether anyone knows if I can get a spare key for the Pilot that doesn't have the "plastic head" so that it would sit nice a flat in my wallet.   Thanks, Kevin Replies to this message: bigdadi118 (Mar 01, 2009 6:41 pm) fred25 (Mar 04, 2009 1:36 pm)
#6816 of 6821 Re: Spare Key for my wallet [kgrealish] by bigdadi118 Mar 01, 2009 (6:41 pm)
Replying to: kgrealish (Mar 01, 2009 12:21 pm) Call around the locksmiths in your area. I know I can make one without the plastic which can only open the lockdoors but not starting the car.   Besides without the plastic head thus less bulky to stay in the wallet.
#6817 of 6821 Re: Spare Key for my wallet [kgrealish] by fred25 Mar 04, 2009 (1:36 pm)
Replying to: kgrealish (Mar 01, 2009 12:21 pm) Please keep in mind that you may need the large headed key because it contains a chip that prevents someone from copying your key and driving off with your vehicle.
#6818 of 6821 A/C problem by rossd Mar 20, 2009 (9:28 pm)
Have a 2003 Honda Pilot EX. Recently, the A/C stopped workinjg. The front and the rear blowers only blow ambient air. No cooling.The compressor (clutch) does not make a clicking sound when I turn on A/C. All other controls work fine. Have checked most fuses, They tested ok. Tried swapping some relays (under hood), but did not help. Any pointers will be appreciated.
#6819 of 6821 malfunction indicator lamp by devie Oct 20, 2009 (1:41 pm)
hi guys.,i got a 2003 honda pilot,mileage now is about 67,000.i noticed recently that my "malfunction indicator lamp" light was on.i did not notice anything wrong in the car.i dont want to go to the dealership right away because aside from being afraid to be charged big time,i dont have any warranty anymore. i tried to checked the fuel cap,tighten it ,but still the warning sign was still on. i hope somebody can give me an advice regarding this problem.tahnks and more power. Replies to this message: mes2 (Oct 20, 2009 5:45 pm) rossd (Oct 21, 2009 8:45 am)

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