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Re: 2005 honda pilot ex-l brake malfunction [jselm123] by markdawson
Oct 21, 2008 (11:40 am)
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Replying to: jselm123 (Jul 30, 2008 6:13 pm)

I purchased a 2005 Honda Pilot in June 2008. I am experiencing the SAME problem. My Honda Dealership told me that I needed brake pads....my husband replaced them and it just happened to me again, I am scared to drive my car now, I have a six month old son. Has anyone made any progress with this? Did the new transmission, master cylinder, brake switch work???
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Re: 2005 honda pilot ex-l brake malfunction [markdawson] by mercara
Oct 21, 2008 (4:51 pm)
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Replying to: markdawson (Oct 21, 2008 11:40 am)

I made a big hole in the driver side floor. When the brake fails, I dig my heels in to the ground. Works for the most part. I buy my shoes from Costco.
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Re: 2005 honda pilot ex-l brake malfunction [ca1aa] by jrl7
Oct 24, 2008 (12:27 pm)
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Replying to: ca1aa (Jul 18, 2008 8:13 am)

I am having the same problem with my 05 Pilot, the brakes have locked up on 2 occasions in the past 7 months. The first time the VSA light came on, I turned off the ignition and re-started the car and it appeared to run OK. I took the car to the dealer... who could find no problems.
The same thing happened early this week but the VSA light did not come on. After coming across your posting I called Honda at the 800 number and was told they had never herd of this problem. I referenced this web site and had no reply.
I took the car back to the dealer who again found nothing.
I called Honda again and they now agree to do some "diagnostic" on the car at the dealer... will wait and see what they find.
I do believe this issue is known by Honda and either they have no fix or the fix is expensive and will not issue a recall. I also agree it is simply a mater of time till someone gets injured caused by this condition....
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by ca1aa
Oct 27, 2008 (11:23 am)
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Since we got our Pilot back around July or August 2008 (had to wait for parts), it has been running okay. Honda changed the modulator and brake switch. When the problem started happening last year, we brought the Pilot to be checked but every time the Honda could not find anything wrong with it. The last time it happened, the VSA light came on, we DID NOT turn off the ignition this time. We drove slowly home (with VSA light on). According to the Honda technician, whenever we turned the engine off, the vehicle’s computer sorts of reboots and fixes itself. So every time we brought it to them, they checked the computer and nothing wrong registered. However, this last time, there was enough information in the vehicle’s computer for them to work on.
In June 2008, we called the 800 number and filed a complaint with Honda. They are aware of this problem because they documented our problem. We even have a case file # that they provided to us. Be persistent with them and inform your service center of the dangers of driving an unsafe vehicle. The second to the last time we brought our Pilot to them and they could not find anything wrong with, I refused to take it back and drive it home. I was totally afraid to ride in it. They ended up diagnosing it as a problem with the transmission (which they replaced with no charge). The manager assured me 99.9% that it wouldn’t happen anymore that the problem was fixed. But lo and behold, it happened again 2 weeks after. That was when the VSA light came on again and we drove home with it on. I hope that you do not have to go through what we have gone through. It is very stressful and dangerous for your family.
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Re: [ca1aa] by jrl7
Oct 31, 2008 (3:30 am)
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Replying to: ca1aa (Oct 27, 2008 11:23 am)

Thanks for your reply. The car has been in the svc center for a few days and they have found nothing wrong. Additionally Honda Cust Svc has indicated that there is no other complaint like this. Could you supply us with the case number supplied by Honda and the dealership you worked with? We appreciate your assistance.
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'05 Honda pilot EX-L brake malfunction by ralphuco
Nov 04, 2008 (8:22 pm)
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I own this vehicle and we have driven about 24000 miles. I note that seven owners have listed this potentionally life-threatening malfunction. Does anyone have any ideas about identifying a commonality of the vehicles? Perhaps the plant of assembly combined with the month could be a starting point. Will the seven people with this problem please list this information.
  If anyone has any other suggestions for getting common information please also post that suggestion. I have just gone from believing that I own a safe reliable vehicle to an owner with worries about my wife's and my safety.
  Thanks. Ralph
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Re: '05 Honda pilot EX-L brake malfunction [ralphuco] by ralphuco
Nov 05, 2008 (5:59 am)
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Replying to: ralphuco (Nov 04, 2008 8:22 pm)

As an additional couple of ideas, what was the odometer reading at the time of the first occurrence and what difference in the braking system or other associated system in the "05 model from the '04. Ralph
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Re: 2005 honda pilot ex-l brake malfunction [jselm123] by rodut
Nov 06, 2008 (1:44 pm)
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Replying to: jselm123 (Jul 22, 2008 6:32 pm)

Complaints about the brakes should be filled with NHTSA, not with Honda !
NHTSA can force Honda to recall / fix / redesign the VSA.
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Re: 2005 honda pilot ex-l brake malfunction [rodut] by ralphuco
Nov 06, 2008 (1:54 pm)
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Replying to: rodut (Nov 06, 2008 1:44 pm)

I hope that's what the owners who had this problem have done. There are seven who indicated the problem in this discussion. It does seem to be a safety issue which warrents the attention of NHTSA. Ralph

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