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#6775 of 6895 Re: 2005 honda pilot ex-l brake malfunction [jselm123]
Jul 18, 2008 (8:13 am)
Your problem is exactly the same as our problem with our '05 Honda Pilot. The curiuos thing is, It seems to happen to '05 Pilots only. I've done a lot of research through the internet. This site is the only one that I've found with a lot of information on this kind of problem. I've recommended this site to our Honda service center.
Our problem started happening last year around August 2007. Everytime the problem occurrred (about 3-4 times), we brought it to the dealership service center and everytime they would test drive the vehicle but could not recreate the problem. Until last month, July 2008, that the Director of Service Operations got involved. They decided to change the transmission (saying that they've seen this problem with Accords). However, 2 weeks after taking the vehicle back from them, it happened again. This time the VSA light and the triangle light with ! came on. We drove home slowly (like you) and, thankfully, these lights stayed on. Apparently, according to the service technician, the vehicle's computer detected error codes for them to determine that the VSA has crashed. In addition, the computer detected a brake switch failure. As I mentioned before, they are in the process of changing the modulator and the brake switch. The parts have been ordered and they're hoping it will come today.
You should go back to your dealership and have them check the VSA. When we had our recent reoccurrence, the VSA and the triangle lights stayed on until we got home (which was 14 miles). Good luck and let me know what happens. I will also keep you posted on any developments, if any, on my side.
#6776 of 6895 Re: 2005 honda pilot ex-l brake malfunction [ca1aa]
Jul 22, 2008 (6:32 pm)
I got my vehicle back from the dealership today. They said the computer did not collect any information that a problem occurred. They drove it 717 miles and nothing happened to them. Thus, they made no repairs or changes to my pilot. I will not drive the vehicle or allow any of my family or friends to drive it. The issue is a life threatening problem. We are going to trade it in for a different car manufacturer; I am not taking anymore chances.
I requested the service department to deliver the vehicle to my home (~30 miles away). They delivered it to my home. I have borrowed my mother-in-law's truck to drive until we find a replacement vehicle.
I have filed a formal complaint with the Honda Customer Relations at 1-800-999-1009 on Friday 7/18/08. They acted very surprised when I made the complaint. I also referenced this website when making the complaint; like you this was the most informative website about the issue. They suggest to inform others with the problem to file a formal complaint about their vehicle as well. The complaints are made against the vehicle's VIN.
I ask if there was a way that they could gather the current know vehicles VIN with the issue and research if all vehicles were built in the same manufacturing plant and close to the same time frame. They said that they could track the vehicles. This could help them identify a range of vehicles with the issue and hopefully get them off the road.
I have heard nothing from the Customer Relations in regards to my pilot issue nor did the Customer Relations contact the dealership that was looking into my pilot.
#6777 of 6895 Re: Pilot odometer issue/mileage overage [parviz]
Jul 22, 2008 (9:34 pm)
I recall receiving a letter form Honda. I thought the mileage bonus was 10% but I can't find the letter and there is no record on the Honda web site. Do you have a copy of the correspondence from Honda? I'm turning in my Pilot next month (Thank heaven!) with about 36.5K and will be very glad to be driving a new CRV. FYI-I never got over 15 MPG in mixed city-highway driving and never or 19 MPG highway only. The 17/22 was fiction!
#6778 of 6895 Re: Pilot odometer issue/mileage overage [eljay]
Jul 23, 2008 (8:48 am)
I recall receiving something from either Honda or the law offices/court coresspondance to Honda dealers. I'll see if I still have it but in a nuts shell the settlement was that for the 2006 model year and older (can't recall how old) they would get a 5% additional mileage allowance for warranty and lease calculations. Enjoy your CRV.
#6779 of 6895 Re: 2005 honda pilot ex-l brake malfunction [jselm123]
Jul 23, 2008 (9:30 am)
Like you, I called American Honda Customer Relations 1-800-999-1009. I filed a complaint and they even gave me a Case #. I'm surprised they're acting surprised since I spoke with them just last month, June 2008. I called them up again right after the problem started re-occurring. That was after Honda changed my Pilot's transmission (thinking that was the cause of the problem). But I never heard from them. The case manager assigned to me was Terry (no last name provided, of course). We got our Pilot back yesterday with new modulator and new brake switch. We'll see what happens this time.
#6780 of 6895 Re: 2005 honda pilot ex-l brake malfunction [ca1aa]
Jul 30, 2008 (6:13 pm)
I no longer own my hazardous o5 Honda Pilot. I am now a GMC Acadia owner. I am so glad to have the stress off my hands.
Like you I have never heard back from the American Honda Customer Relations about my case.
I wish you the best of luck with this issue. I will continue to follow the forum to see what resolutions Honda finds to correct grinding stop of the vehicles.
#6781 of 6895 We can't be the only ones this happened to -2003 Pilot owners beware!
Aug 27, 2008 (5:02 am)
Honda is brushing us under the rug. We have been victims because a part wasn't lubricated from the factory and it should have been. It is the only time a ball joint in the control arm can be!
We have posted a youtube video to explain what happened to us. Hopefully we will be heard FINALLY!
#6782 of 6895 MDX vs Pilot and problems
Aug 27, 2008 (10:47 am)
I am leaning towards purchasing a used (2006-2005) MDX but also considering the Pilot. What do you think the financial incentives will be post-labor day?
Any 0% for 36 month financing, or extending 0.9% for more than 36 months?
And anything I should be evaluating between the pilot and mdx other than cost?
Anyone have both or experienced what repair/maintenance costs are? Wouldnt you just service an acura at honda for cheaper?
#6783 of 6895 Hitch Questions for Pilot
Sep 16, 2008 (10:14 am)
I want to install a hitch on my 05 Pilot. Looks like there are some good options from Hidden-Hitch and Draw Tite, and doesn't look too difficult to install. I'm planning to buy a complete kit from one of the many websites.
My uses of the hitch will be for a bike rack and using one of those simple utilty type trailers for the occasional moving of a lawn tractor or trip to Lowes...(haven't bought the trailer yet).
Questions I have are:
- For those who have installed themselves, did you have any issues? Is the muffler easy to lower from the rubber hangars? How about the wiring harness - easy to connect/route?
- The kit I like comes with a 4" drop (2 3/4' rise) ball mount. That 4' drop seems like a lot to me... Does that make it too low for a typical trailer? (I 've been told 18-19" from the ground is a good rule of thumb) What are the rest you using?
Thanks - Mike
#6784 of 6895 Re: Hitch Questions for Pilot [twinpower]
Sep 17, 2008 (4:29 am)
The mechanical part should be fairly straight forward. Installing the transmission and PS coolers pretty much require removing the front bumper to properly expose the components. Seems there were a few bolts and a zillion pins.
Look closely at the wiring part of the hitch installation. There may be more to it than simply plugging into a hidden connector. Such as installation of relays and such under the dash.