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Re: 2005 honda pilot ex-l brake malfunction [ca1aa] by archer66
Jul 04, 2008 (10:43 am)
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Replying to: ca1aa (Jun 17, 2008 9:47 am)

I also have an 05 Pilot. Purchased used with 26000 miles in December of 07. Within a month we began having the same problem. We called the dealership and told them about it. They asked if the VSA light had remained on after the incident and of course it had not. They said that without the light on, the vehicles computer wouldn't show an error. We decided to wait and see if it happened again and sure enough a week ago driving 40 mph down a smooth and straight road it locks up the brakes. My wife was lucky not to have been rear ended. She took it straight to the dealer and said "Take the darn thing and fix it." Well the next day they call and say that the VSA modulator has gone bad. It has taken a week to get the part but it is finally installed. I'm not convinced it is the modulator because it could also be a stability sensor. I guess we'll give their "fix" a chance. This particular dealership is one of the top rated in the nation so hopefully they know what they are talking about. We will be driving the vehicle about 2500 miles on vacation over the next couple weeks so we'll see.
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Hard Braking Make Clicking Noise & Unable to refill gas tank by fx35awd
Jul 07, 2008 (10:03 am)
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Please help me, I have been really frustrated with my '04 EX-L, it has around 50k miles on it and when I hit the brakes really hard and fast (in an emergency) a loud series of three to four clicking sound from the rear would emerge. I know my rear break pads have not been replace, but will soon. Could this be a problem? I am hoping it is.
  
The other frustrating problem is when I go to pump gas for my Pilot and after several seconds of pumping gas it keeps making the clicking sound as if the tank is full, please keep in mind my tank probably has only two or less gallons remaining, and it does this all the time when I go to pump gas. I have tried different gasoline stations and the problem still persists. I would have to spend like 20 minutes just to pump gas each time because once it click I would have to squeeze the nossle again. It basically click indicating the tank was full every 0.3 gallon that goes into my tank. Also, I have been smelling gas lately when the car is in park and it does not have to be right after refueling the vehicle.
  
Please, please help me out. I would appreciate any advice. Thank you.
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Water leak from glove box by leo41
Jul 10, 2008 (8:54 pm)
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'03 Pilot leaks water from the glove box which is happening occasionally when the a/c is on recirc for an extended period of time. Is this some type of drain hose problem. Anyone have similar problem and a fix, i would appreciate the help.
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Re: 2005 honda pilot ex-l brake malfunction [stingray5] by ca1aa
Jul 15, 2008 (3:08 pm)
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Replying to: stingray5 (Jun 18, 2008 6:35 pm)

This is in response to stingray5 message on 6/18/08:
 
As I mentioned before, we took our 2005 Honda Pilot to our local service center. They test drove the vehicle so many times but, unfortunately, could not recreate the problem. Finally, the Director of Service Operations became involved. The final determination was to change the transmission. According to them, this problem have been observed on Honda Accords. Although, he couldn't tell me if they occur on Pilots. He assured me 99.9% that after changing the transmission, I will not encounter the same problem again. We took the vehicle out 2 weeks ago.
 
It performed well, but after two weeks, it happened again. On 7/13/08, the same problem started re-occurring. This time the yellow triangle and VSA lights were both on. We didn't turn it off but drove very slowly home (about 14 miles). When we got home, we took a picture of the dash board so we can prove that we are not making all of this up. Anyway, last Monday, we brought it back to the Honda service center. The technician there called me up yesterday afternoon to inform me that the computer gathered enough information to indicate that the VSA (Vehicle Stability Assist) system was malfunctioning. They told me that they will be replacing the brake switch and the modulator -- secondary option.
 
Hopefully, this will solve the problem. By the time Honda is done, I would have a brand new/old Pilot.
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Re: 2005 honda pilot ex-l brake malfunction [archer66] by ca1aa
Jul 15, 2008 (3:22 pm)
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Replying to: archer66 (Jul 04, 2008 10:43 am)

I just spoke with our Honda technician this afternoon. He told me that the VSA on my Honda has crashed so that's the reason they are replacing the modulator. They also detected a brake switch failure which they will be replacing also. They told me it will take 2-3 days to fix the vehicle. I will keep you posted if anything comes up. I hope this solves our problem.
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Re: 2005 honda pilot ex-l brake malfunction [ca1aa] by jselm123
Jul 17, 2008 (5:17 pm)
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Replying to: ca1aa (Jul 15, 2008 3:22 pm)

I was so glad to find this forum. I thought I was the only person out there with the 05 Honda pilot ex-l lock-up experience. All of your stories sound just like my experience. On 7/14/08, my pilot locked-up while driving 55mph on a busy highway. I am thankful there was an empty turning lane and the person behind me was far enough back to react. This is actually the third time it has occurred; however, the first during driving at 55 mph. The first two occurred during a stop; the lock-up occurred during take off. Again, I was lucky that the people behind me were pay close attention.
 
The first time: I thought that my parking bake got stuck. I pushed and released it several times and then took off with no problems. I did not take the vehicle to the dealership. (no sensor indicators came on)
 
The second time was a month later: I pushed and release the parking brake several times and then took off with no problems. I took the vehicle to the dealership. They could not find any issues and gave the vehicle back. (no sensor indicators came on) They checked the parking brake and saw no signs of grinding or burn marks, they checked the brakes and said the pads had good thickness, they checked the sensors and said all sensors were working properly. They told me if it would happen again that they would pay to have the vehicle towed to there shop.
 
The third time on Monday (9 months later) : The vehicle came to a grinding stop while driving 55 mph. When I pressed the brake pedal it went to the floor and the vehicle did not respond. I controlled the steering until the vehicle came to a complete stop (about 20 seconds). I looked down and the VSA and the triangle with ! mark indicators were on. After calming myself down, I called the dealership. They said it would be a while before a tow truck could make it to my location. I had to get to my son's day-care before it closed. Thus, I decided to drive it to my son's day-care and that they could tow it from there. When the car stopped, I never turned the car off or placed it in park. Thus, I maneuvered to the outside lane and drove slowly (never over 40 mph) about 3 to 4 miles to my son's day-care. The vehicle never locked-up during those miles. The dealership checked the vehicle and could not find anything wrong. I requested them to look further. They are driving it for a few days to see if it will happen. I will not ride in this vehicle again. Nor will I have my family or friends ride in the car.
 
In my opinion, the vehicle is a death trap.
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Re: 2005 honda pilot ex-l brake malfunction [jselm123] by ca1aa
Jul 18, 2008 (8:13 am)
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Replying to: jselm123 (Jul 17, 2008 5:17 pm)

Your problem is exactly the same as our problem with our '05 Honda Pilot. The curiuos thing is, It seems to happen to '05 Pilots only. I've done a lot of research through the internet. This site is the only one that I've found with a lot of information on this kind of problem. I've recommended this site to our Honda service center.
 
Our problem started happening last year around August 2007. Everytime the problem occurrred (about 3-4 times), we brought it to the dealership service center and everytime they would test drive the vehicle but could not recreate the problem. Until last month, July 2008, that the Director of Service Operations got involved. They decided to change the transmission (saying that they've seen this problem with Accords). However, 2 weeks after taking the vehicle back from them, it happened again. This time the VSA light and the triangle light with ! came on. We drove home slowly (like you) and, thankfully, these lights stayed on. Apparently, according to the service technician, the vehicle's computer detected error codes for them to determine that the VSA has crashed. In addition, the computer detected a brake switch failure. As I mentioned before, they are in the process of changing the modulator and the brake switch. The parts have been ordered and they're hoping it will come today.
 
You should go back to your dealership and have them check the VSA. When we had our recent reoccurrence, the VSA and the triangle lights stayed on until we got home (which was 14 miles). Good luck and let me know what happens. I will also keep you posted on any developments, if any, on my side.
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Re: 2005 honda pilot ex-l brake malfunction [ca1aa] by jselm123
Jul 22, 2008 (6:32 pm)
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Replying to: ca1aa (Jul 18, 2008 8:13 am)

I got my vehicle back from the dealership today. They said the computer did not collect any information that a problem occurred. They drove it 717 miles and nothing happened to them. Thus, they made no repairs or changes to my pilot. I will not drive the vehicle or allow any of my family or friends to drive it. The issue is a life threatening problem. We are going to trade it in for a different car manufacturer; I am not taking anymore chances.
 
I requested the service department to deliver the vehicle to my home (~30 miles away). They delivered it to my home. I have borrowed my mother-in-law's truck to drive until we find a replacement vehicle.
 
I have filed a formal complaint with the Honda Customer Relations at 1-800-999-1009 on Friday 7/18/08. They acted very surprised when I made the complaint. I also referenced this website when making the complaint; like you this was the most informative website about the issue. They suggest to inform others with the problem to file a formal complaint about their vehicle as well. The complaints are made against the vehicle's VIN.
 
I ask if there was a way that they could gather the current know vehicles VIN with the issue and research if all vehicles were built in the same manufacturing plant and close to the same time frame. They said that they could track the vehicles. This could help them identify a range of vehicles with the issue and hopefully get them off the road.
 
I have heard nothing from the Customer Relations in regards to my pilot issue nor did the Customer Relations contact the dealership that was looking into my pilot.
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Re: Pilot odometer issue/mileage overage [parviz] by eljay
Jul 22, 2008 (9:34 pm)
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Replying to: parviz (May 28, 2008 4:28 pm)

I recall receiving a letter form Honda. I thought the mileage bonus was 10% but I can't find the letter and there is no record on the Honda web site. Do you have a copy of the correspondence from Honda? I'm turning in my Pilot next month (Thank heaven!) with about 36.5K and will be very glad to be driving a new CRV. FYI-I never got over 15 MPG in mixed city-highway driving and never or 19 MPG highway only. The 17/22 was fiction!
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Re: Pilot odometer issue/mileage overage [eljay] by parviz
Jul 23, 2008 (8:48 am)
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Replying to: eljay (Jul 22, 2008 9:34 pm)

I recall receiving something from either Honda or the law offices/court coresspondance to Honda dealers. I'll see if I still have it but in a nuts shell the settlement was that for the 2006 model year and older (can't recall how old) they would get a 5% additional mileage allowance for warranty and lease calculations. Enjoy your CRV.

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