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| I wanted to wait for the new Pilot, however I loved the RX for everything it is and not what it isn't. If I would have waited I know I would have had to pay sticker. The MDX is what this car will be but without and the extra's Nissan is due out with 4 new suv's in the next couple of years so things will keep getting better for consumers. | |
| maybe but I think anythings better than pilot, the interior looks nice though. And I do believe thats a rear heating vent on the center console. The highlander doesn't have that. Just spectulating but I think from the honda news release that the engine is supposed to have a lotta torque if it is going to be "the class leader in towing". That'll be something new for a Honda. | |
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The long wheelbase and wide track give this car an awesome powerful look. More practically, this might end up being the best-handling SUV out there, with such a broad footprint and car-based platform. I'm glad the interior is cheap, if it translates into price significantly below the MDX. The Highlander didn't end up much cheaper than its luxury equivalent - a loaded HL gets very close to the RX in terms of street prices. I hope Honda differentiates the luxury and non-luxury prices more than that. Then again, Highlander was truly one of a kind. With increased competition in this segment, some prices might go down. In fact, once the PILOT comes out, the Highlander might be a much better value - with lower street prices, higher quality (Hondas aren't stellar in their first year, the HL was) and similar capabilities. Oh, this is exciting. I'll hold on to my Forester until this new segment comes alive. --Bart |
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This segment is definitely heating up. Between this, the Highlander, and the Nissan X-trail. It ought to be good. If Nissan brings the X-trail or some soon to be mentioned car based SUV to the U.S. Honda seems to have the third row seating advantage.
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I would like to see a rear window like the 4Runner. That kind of window adds so much to the ventilation and utility of an SUV. On top of that my dogs like to stick their heads out the rear window.
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| Someone was complaining of the cheap interior...have you sat in one, I don't think so. | |
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I was thinking the same thing. =) There's supposed to be one at the Detroit Auto Show, but I have to wonder if it'll be another concept. Like the 7/8ths model they showed for the MD-X. HondaSUV.com (AKA CR-V IX) has opened a new forum for the Pilot. The CR-V IX has long been the most popular and useful on-line resource for the CR-V. Check it out. The more users they attract the better the information that gets published there. |
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| Are the Pilot's cockpit doors reinforced? | |
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| The interior sketches are really similar to the Ody, but with a center console from a MDX. Exterior dimensions look on par to the Ody, expecially the back and wheel overhangs. Obviously these are just sketches, but it looks alot bigger than an MDX, and borrowing the dash from the Ody is a price saving concept. IMO, A AWD Ody on stilts, lower roofline, and a front end crossed between CRV and MDX. Fills the void left of large AWD minivan with a SUV image. It would fit the pricing of a base starting close to an EX Ody (26k) and going close to a base MDX (34k). Not far from Detroit, so looks like a road trip(waiting for a car to die to jump on the fun waiting list for an MDX--maybe pilot by then). Honda heard us, love the Ody and 3rd magic seat (sorry Highlander), Mdx is nice but pricy, SUV image over Minivan--the void has been filled. | |
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About a year ago I traded in my 1998 Mercedes-Benz ML320 for a brand new Acura MDX. It was the WORST mistake I ever made. [well - at least as far a buying a vehicle is concerned] The MDX was very nice - except for one thing. It was HORRIBLY UNCOMFORTABLE. I sold it [privately] 2 months after I bought it. The problem?? The SEAT. All Acura's and Honda's that have side-impact airbags [I've discovered] are [I find] VERY uncomfortable. The airbags are built into the side of the seat. This does two things. First - the 'wing' or 'side-bolster' [or whatever it's called] that houses the airbag is MUCH harder then the side without the airbag. That harder side forces a person [who has a wider-than-usual body] to twist towards the softer side - putting his body out of alignment. The seat is ALSO narrower. [is that a word??] This is necessary because there has to be space between the seat AND the door for the airbag to inflate. What a guy [like me] who is big and WIDE [6'3" and about 250 lbs] ends up feeling is that he is sitting in a seat made for a child. [an awkwardly shaped child - at that] My mom owns an Acura TL Type S and the seat is exactly the same. [in other words - just as UNcomfortable] I have owned LOTS of Honda's and Acura's in my life. I still own my 1991 NSX. I never had this problem before Honda started installing side-impact airbags. In fact - I think my NSX is one of the MOST comfortable cars I've ever owned. Honda and Acura [like most other car companies] have ALSO shortened the seat bottoms. [the part you actually SIT on] I don't know WHY this is happening. I think it's a mistake. Chrysler is particularily 'bad' when it comes to this. Maybe 'they' want people to THINK there is more leg room than there really is - I don't know. Perhaps the price of foam-rubber has gone through the roof. Your guess is as good as mine. IF you're a smaller person AND/OR a 'narrow' bodied person - you probably won't know what I'm talking about. If you're comfortable sitting in your side-impact airbag equipt Honda or Acura - well - good for you. BUT I can't help but wonder IF Honda has EVER walked through a typical Walmart in a typcial U.S or Canadian city. Perhaps they should. Then maybe - JUST MAYBE - they'll come to realize that MOST people are NOT 'skinny little things'. I hope the new 'Pilot' brings Honda/Acura BACK to the good old days when they DID make a VERY comfortable 'car'. [even for 'us' big guys] Craig!! :o)
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